Prosecutors Believe Caylee Anthony Could Be Dead
Because a cadaver dog alerted on the smell of human decomposition in the trunk of her car, prosecutors believe a missing 2-year-old is dead and her mother is a person of interest in her homicide. Those facts came to light in a bail hearing for Casey Anthony, 22, in an Orlando courtroom.Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland set bond at $500,000 for the young mother, saying the law did not allow him to hold her without bail on the charges with which she has been charged.
The $500,000 bond was higher than normal for the charges of child neglect, making false official statements and obstructing a criminal investigation -- two misdemeanors and a class-three felony. But prosecutors argued that she be held without bail.
"Not a bit of useful information has been provided by Ms. Anthony as to the whereabouts of her daughter," Judge Strickland said. "And I would add that the truth and Ms. Anthony are strangers."
During the hearing, Sheriff's deputies testified that a cadaver dog alerted to the smell of human remains in Casey Anthony's car and in the Anthony's yard. They found a stain, some dirt and what may be some of Caylee's hair in the trunk of the car.
A Person of Interest
"The risk of her flight if she is released on some low bond increases exponentially, especially now that she's heard this additional evidence and that she is their person of interest," said assistant state attorney Linda Drane-Burdick.
Meanwhile, Anthony's defense attorney Jose Baez argued that her bail should be set in the $10,000 range, given the charges she currently faces. He said the family cannot afford a high bond.
"This is not a capital case, and if it were they certainly would file it, if they had evidence to," Baez said. "There is circumstantial evidence of a possible homicide, I will give them that. But circumstantial evidence has not made them confident enough to charge her with any specific homicide or kidnapping, or any capital offense."
Investigators said they were still searching for the missing 2-year-old, hoping to find her alive. Caylee's family insists that the child is still alive and Casey knows who has the youngster.
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i think that Casey is a victim of incest and her father is also Caylee’s father. and this is why there is no record of a father and this is why casey is a compulsive liar and shows little emotion- that’s what can happen to incest victims. i think Caylee became in danger of being an incest victim and either she was rapad and murdered by the grandfather or casey killed her in a type of defense. either way i think all three (grandmother, grandfather and Casey) worked together to get rid of the body. and Cindy is speaking in very specific terms when she says “there could be one or two reasons why Casey is not telling the truth and that somebody could be holding something over her head and threatening her in some way.” i think Casey has been living in an extreme state of conflict, being both a victim and a dependent mother and maybe she snapped- or maybe that grandfather did it. But either way- i think there is a deep back story here that actually makes everything make a certain sense and this is why the women in this family lie all the time and the grandfather is relatively silent.
I think Casey killed Caylee in a fit of rage. I don’t think she actually planned to kill Caylee. I just think the stress of being a young single mother and trying to keep up the ruse that she was employed got to be too much for her. I just lost it one day and took it out on Caylee. She might have viewed Caylee as a hindrance in her life. You have to know she did something to Caylee, because no concerned mother would wait over a month to report her child missing. Her excuse of conducting her own investigation does not fly. How could she have been investigating when she didn’t even have her car. Why would she leave her car parked for weeks,far from where she was suppose to be staying? I can’t think of one person I know who would abandon their car for no good reason. I mean having transportation gives us freedom. I think the car was a reminder of what she did to Caylee so she had to disassociate herself from it. She hasn’t told the police one truthful thing. I think the two tips of seeing Caylee in Orlando Airport and Georgia are bogus. I think if Caylee was at the airport more people would’ve spotted her.
I think Casey killed Caylee.I don’t think it was intentional.I don’t know if Casey’s mother knows the truth.It is possible that she does.If Casey had come clean in the beginning she could have been charged with manslaughter.I believe they will find Caylee’s body and she will be charged with murder.
I think Caey killed her. And thats why she is not saying anything.
And also, if she is not guilty why would she wait so long to report her missing and than her mother is the one that reported it , not Casey. humm…I think the mom did it , or she would show more concern….I think she should stay in jail forever for that reason. I dont feel sorry for Casey at all. I hope they do find her alive….shes a beautiful little girl. My prayers are for her only.
after listening to the 911 tapes and seeing cindy respond, doesn;t it now seem to be the official word that Cindy, the grandmother was the last to see Caylee, on the 15th. how can she have seen her on the 15th and then not have seen Casey since the 9th? how did they hand off caylee between mom and grandmom on fathers day?? – also why did the grandmom know to identify the smell in the car as that of dead body, i mean who knows what that smells like? unless grandmom had known the circumstances that lead to the car smelling like that, —i’m just saying—grandmom cound be framing casey. casey could have ran away- done some credit card stealing crimes–and then come back to find that her daughter is missing and –her mom puts it on her to take responsability or else- so she starts making up these storoes that dont make sense. and then when the mom says- “it was a big mostake to arrest casey” and “they are just trying to get casey to spill her beans by keeping her in prison” sounds like grandmom isrealizing that her hold on casey is harder to keep from afar and she’s worries her daughter will give her away. i think grandmom is the one.
MY QUESTION IS…. HAVE THE INVESTIGATORS SEARCHED ALL THE AREA DUMPSTERS IN AND AROUND WHERE THE CAR WAS FOUND? HAVE THEY STARTED THE LANDFILL SEARCH WHERE THESE WERE EMPTIED WITHIN A REASONABLE TIMETABLE OF THE CAR BEING FOUND? THE MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER HAVE REALLY NAILED A DELAY TACTIC. I THINK THE GRANDMOTHER KNOWS MORE THAN SHE IS TELLING AND CAYLEES’ MOM SHOULD GO AHEAD AND TELL ALL THE TRUTH! DOESN’T SHE REALIZE THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE FOR A LONG PRISON TERM ALREADY?
I believe that Casey is the one who “made Caylee dissapear”. Her daughter was in the background of a phone call to casey from a friend. The friend reportedly heard Casey telling Caylee to get off the table! And that was later in June when that happened. The time table doesn’t fit for any of the stories given by the Anthony family. Was Caylee last seen on June 9th or June 15th or was she really heard in the background the end of June? Why aren’t they working on a true timeline and I would be arresting the grandmother because she seams to know a little too much about the case, don’t you think? She seams to be hiding something, and how would she know what the smell of human decomposition smells like? I mean I know it probably smells really bad, but I havn’t even smelled it, so I wouldn’t know!
i think that if caylee is dead, her mother is covering for whoever is the killer.
i think the grandmother is trying to protect her daughter from the media’s cumpulsion to pin the alleged “murder” on someone.
Furthermore, and i’m sure eveyone agrees that if there is any information casey has on her daughter’s disappearance she should tell prosectutors. If she was a real “good” mother as cynthia put it, she would be giving all the information she has on the topic to the law enforcement, instead of holding the clues upon her release.
wow nika… that’s actually an interesting little theory – it certainly would serve to explain some of the bizarre behavior among family members thus far. things are unravelling fast and answers may not be too long off – stay tuned!
I bet that she left the little girl strapped in her carseat when it was hot outside and she died, bet the boyfriend knows about it too it too
Nika,
Dramatic theory but I don’t think it makes much sense.
A. Casey was around 19 when she had Caylee—well over the legal age of consent. Typically in incest cases the perp is a pedophile or ephebophile interested in either pre-pubescent children or teens, respectively.
B. It will be easy enough to verify whether Caylee is the product of incest by testing the DNA of the fluids found in the trunk, or of the body once they find the child. Incest shows up genetically, obviously.
I think that Casey killed Caylee—whether deliberately or not—and has been lying about it ever since.
And I think that the Grandmother is so deeply in denial that she cannot bring herself to admit that her own daughter is capable of murder.
Casey demonstrates TEXTBOOK sociopathy: on the phone call from jail (to her relatives and friend) she smakes a slip. She (somewhat angrily) remarks: “All anyone cares about is finding Caylee.” The implication or subtext of this statement is: “All you care about is finding *her*—not about the fact that *I* am in jail right now.”
But, clever sociopath that she is, Casey then quickly (almost in a heartbeat) catches herself and realizes that what she has just said does not sound right—that it betrays her true, sociopathic nature. She has messed up. She quickly adds: “…And that’s all I care about, too.”
Listen to the recording. It’s all there. IMO Casey is the murderer.
I believe Casey has made a horrible mistake..
maybe selling or giving the child to someone
very unreliable, maybe crashing out somewhere and waking to find the child gone..or the new boyfriend could have talked her into some crime about the child…I just hate to think of the darling little girl gone…that is so very, very sad. The gm I believe was being stalled by Casey the first 31 days, she was probably hoping Casey was truthful for those 31 days and then had to go against her by filing the stolen car and money…hoping Casey
would come around with a good answer of where
the child was. So sad…
I was reading nika’s comment and make sence for that reason she explained and everybody also noticed caylee last name? Isn’t she Caylee marie anthony instead of have another last name? If the baby’s father passed away last year in car accident caylee was 2 years old already or almost because she is gonna be 3, so the father of the baby didn’t give the last name to caylee? and where is the father’s family now? I think if their son passed away don’t you think the would like to be part of caylee life? Did the police confirmed with this accident or is a cover up and oanother lie?
Nika what you said i was thinking about the some thing a couple days ago only because of caylee’s last name, im sorry if im wrong but there is lies everywhere in a family i wish the truth come out soon and pray for caylee a beautiful girl , inocent and didn’t ask anybody in this world to be born.
God bless you little angel
I was reading Casey’s my space comments from her brother’s myspace page. She indicated in one comment that she was not looking forward to being alone with her father all day and that she was feeling “anxious” about it. I also think that Caylee looks more like the grand parents than the product of Casey and another man. “what happens in the dark always works it’s way into the light.” Sad.
It’s all very clear, when you look at the physical evidence:
1) Grandma’s a registered nurse, so she knows human phytotomy. The smell of decomposition could potentially be recognized by her – but due to the stress of the moment, this smell could be replaced by “pizza or other garbage” in hindsight.
2) The car holds the majority of the evidence of a possible homicide. Casey had reportedly gone on a “shopping binge” in the days leading up to this. Possible, perhaps, that Casey left the daughter in the car for “just a moment” which turned out to be longer than expected? In Orlando in June (or July), this could prove fatal.
3) The “abnormalities” in the dirt in the grandparents’ back yard could point to nothing, as could the reports of the freshly-poured cement slab and the borrowing of a shovel from a neighbor. If there are renovations going on back there, this would not be so unusual. But the finding of dirt and hair in the trunk of the car do sound more suspicious in light of these findings.
4) Why would the car be abandoned in a parking lot? Running out of gas is believable, though it sounds unlikely since Casey was using funds from her mother’s bank account (according to grandma’s 911 call). More likely is that the car was abandoned and the gasoline removed from it to make it appear as if it had coincidentally run out of gas there (in light of the other evidence – too many coincidences do not add up).
5) Credible threats which had been allegedly made against Casey and/or her family is the presumed reason Casey did not speak up before. Casey is 22 years old, unemployed, carless, and living with a boyfriend of less than two months. Does she really have the means to “investigate” on her own? Wouldn’t it be more plausible to warn the family members of threats made against them, rather than to take the word of a person (or persons) who “betrayed” her to begin with?
6) A witness on an airplane recalls a toddler giving her name as “Caylee Antony” (no pronounced “h”). Yeah. An unrelated witness who can accurately remember the name spoken to her by an unknown three-year-old on a flight, and who calls the distressed grandmother of the child to relay this information… How much validity can be given to this particular lead?
It sounds as if Casey, after leaving her child in a hot car to die, attempted to cover up the death by burying the child in her parents’ back yard, and upon having second thoughts, felt it better to allow another individual (or individuals) to do so for her, elsewhere. Casey attempted to cover up the missing child by “staging” phone calls wherein she told Caylee to get off a table (letting the caller believe that the child was right there during the call), and Casey’s receiving a one-minute phone call (in her mother’s presence) wherein she asks Caylee to “give the phone to an adult.” The car remained abandoned because Casey, filled with remourse or guilt over her daughter’s death therein, could not bring herself to use it again – or perhaps the odor permeated the car so completely by then that she simply could not do so for more practical reasons.
This person is a piece of ####. This is her child and she doesn’t want to help. You would do anything to help you children and she doesn’t care. THe grand mother is another #### looking for attention. It is to bad that alot of time and money on the police side is wasted when you have the mother there to give you the answers. When she is convicted of the killing not only should she be executed she should have to pay back all the money wasted for this search. A MOTHER WHO WON’T HELP FIND HER OWN KID IS CLEARLY NUTS OR GUILTY.
I don’t understand one thing, maybe someone could help me? Did Casey and Caylee live with the grandparents for the 31 days Caylee was missing? The grandparents spoke to Casey everyday day by phone or text, but she was not liveing at home? Did they know where either Casey or Caylee where? How could Casey afford a Nanny that her parent keep mentioning if she wasn’t gainfully employed? Why isn’t the new boyfriend being questioned and hounded by the media? There seem to be so many questions that the media isn’t even asking.
Caylee’s picture is that of an angel and I pray she if found alive, but wonder what kind of mental or physical damage has been done to her. The whole family seems to have a few screws loose and Caylee had to suffer for their stupidities.
The whole thing reeks of weirdness. I think Caylee has been pretty much raised by her grandparents and they think of her as their own and didn’t want Casey to take her anywhere and they believe they should be the ones to raise her. I believe they have threatened before to take Caylee away from Casey.
I’m not sure if Casey hasn’t hidden her for that reason alone, to punish them or something. As far as the mom calling the police and trying to have her arrested and saying alot of stuff I figure she got her bank statement and saw a bunch of charges she knew she didn’t make and wanted to get back at Casey for that, I would be really mad too. Doesn’t say much about the boyfriend in the news. If Casey was living with him wasn’t Caylee too? Wouldn’t he have a lot of information to give to the police? I really hope Caylee is safe somewhere and that the truth about it comes out soon. It is sad.
I think the mother got her bank statement and she did not have the money to place back so that is why she called police also i think the little girl is dead. sad
My impression is Casey got involved with new people, new boyfriend, and most likely heavy duty drugs. She’s probably going through major withdrawal right now and that’s why her anger and aggitation on phone w friend & mother in jail. I think she wants to talk to BF because she thinks maybe he can hook her up in jail with something. She probably had a fight with her parents in June, left, took Caylee with her to spite them and used her as leverage against them. Something may have happened to Caylee while her mom was strung out. The GP’s were contacting her trying to get her to come home with Caylee. She was lying to them for a month. Than the GM found out about the car being impounded and threatened Casey with her being arrested. That’s when Casey came home and GM made the first 911 call. At first, maybe she didn’t realize Caylee was mis
My impression is Casey got involved with new people, new boyfriend, and most likely heavy duty drugs. She’s probably going through major withdrawal right now and that’s why her anger and aggitation on phone w friend & mother in jail. I think she wants to talk to BF because she thinks maybe he can hook her up in jail with something. She probably had a fight with her parents in June, left, took Caylee with her to spite them and used her as leverage against them. Something may have happened to Caylee while her mom was strung out. The GP’s were contacting her trying to get her to come home with Caylee. She was lying to them for a month. Than the GM found out about the car being impounded and threatened Casey with her being arrested. That’s when Casey came home and GM made the first 911 call. At first, maybe she didn’t realize Caylee was truly missing just thought daugher left her with someone. Than Casey told her mother the BS story about Caylee being kidnapped by babysitter. Either the GM went into denial and believed her or realized the child died and so decided at least she would get her daughter back if she aided her in her lies.
oops. At first GM didn’t realize Caylee was missing just thought Casey left her with someone. Than before second 911 call Casey told her mom the BS story about her being kidnapped. At that point GM either went into denial or realized if her Granddaughter died that at least she would get her daughter back if she defended her lies.
The police are obviously doing much more behind the scenes. If people pay attention to other cases as they unfold the cops tell way too much on how they find out what area someone was at at a particular time and day. They would know what and how the police find their information. I suspect soon if they know what they are doing they will start searching the areas where Casey was in the last 40 days. This info is available to the police. It is called cell tower records. I watched a case on a murder and they said the cell tower pinged at certain areas on a certain day. Bam there you go. They just need to get those records and start the long haul search for little Casey’s body. Maybe they are waitig for the results to come back from the lab and see if this psycho mom is going to tell them where to find her before they use up more valueable time and resources to find this child.
I hope that I am wrong. And would be glad if is found alive.
I think the grandmother is a little suspisious. If you review the 911 transcripts she made, she even said to the lady that Casey stole her car and some money and that the “damn car smells like there’d been a body in it” (or something to that extent). Then, on a video of her begin questioned about the “decomposition” in the car, she quotes that if you leave pizza or any trash in the car in their heat that it’ll smell like that! First she, herself, was worried about it because Casey had stolen her car, and now she’s disagreeing bitterly with media saying it’s just the smell of trash! I smell something fishy about that. Plus, why did Casey steal her grandparent’s car and money? Why hadn’t Cindy seen Casey for that month (the same month she hadn’t seen Caylee) then found Casey without Caylee? Why haven’t police been able to find this mysterious nanny, and why did they find a “nanny” Casey spoke of but both women verified they didn’t know each other? The entire family is getting weird and its sick because a little girl is either out there in trouble, or dead.
I feel that the family being grandma, grandpa and Casey know what happened. I believe the scenerio of leaving the child in a hot car is very possible. I also think for some reason it has seemed from the beginning as if Casey were jealous of Caylee, maybe she got more attention from grandma. However, how did she live so long with no job and supporting a child? She received money from some where. If she was into drugs she could of been strung out the child came up missing and she needed to get things out of her system and come to prior to notifying the police. Also, her dad could be Caylees dad, very possible. Something doesnt sit right with me about Casey, she seems very guilty.
If my daughter went missing, I’d be telling everything I knew constantly to ANYONE who would listen – police, media, anyone. You couldn’t shut me up! I wouldn’t be able to stop crying. I would be begging the police to ask me questions, I’d be offering every thought I could come up with. Her (and her parent’s) refusal to “discuss aspects” and Casey’s lack of emotion (except for herself) says it all. Why wasn’t the gma babysitting Caylee during the year prior? She was just fine with her going *somewhere* to some nanny and never knowing where – while the little girl lived with her? She’d better hope they keep her in jail (Casey), cause I really don’t think she would be safe on the street. I’ve read comments from too many people who think they could get her to talk. I agree with the idea that she probably was using her car as the real babysitter. Her whole attitude towards her child is strange. Who could send their 2 year old “off to the beach” for the weekend, while she parties? I’d be worried sick about my 2 year old at the beach without me supervising. The problem with liars is that they are so used to lying that they don’t realize how obvious it is that they are lying. They think everyone thinks in the twisted way they do, and don’t realize they are shooting red flags all over the place. Why don’t they give her a polygraph???? OK, I’m done. I’m just so sad for this baby. It brings back those beautiful babies Susan Smith did away with. I cried for a month over them.
I think Casey INTENDED to dispose of her daughter all along. I believe when she left to “bond” with her, she had a plan. Where did she stay during this time? How did she eat and live without money? Also, the father died a year ago..was he in their lives before that? What about his parents and family? Who and where are they? Could Casey have given this child away for money, or could she be as selfish as she appears and discarded her out of her life? Nobody is this stupid. We all know there is no person or nanny involved. Also, Casey claims this nanny called..Okay-there has to be a record of that incoming call. Where and who did it come from? She’s full of BS when she says that she tried to call back and it was diconnected. That did not happen, I am sure.
I also wanted to say that I believe Casey is a very spoiled child and always has been. The parents feel they have to cover this up, but it’s obvious. Even when they play the jail calls, I sense that the Grandma feels she has to sweet talk her daughter to get her to cooperate. Casey is now a grown woman, but she can’t stand on her own two feet. I have to believe she is too selfish to care for anyone but herself.
Interesting suggestion about the incest. Caylee comes from combining Casey and her brother’s name, Lee.
I just think that it is strange that the paternal grandparents have never surfaced. Either they never knew or the father is just something else that Casey has lied about.
It has seemed fishy from the start to me about Caylee’s “father”. Even if he is dead then all of you are right, there would be someone on his side of the family. I also agree that in the very least the Grandmother knows what happened. I truly hope that she is found alive and is taken away from this family and another loving family will take care of this child.
I have been obsessed with this story from the onset. How terrible! I have 3 children of my own with 1 on the way. Each time I hear a horror story like this one I just cannot fathom how any human being could harm an innocent child. There are a lot of interesting theories presented here. Some are quite possible. I feel that it could have been an accident or intentional. If an accident, I feel that perhaps Casey was out partying, left her daughter asleep in the car in the evening, passed out and when she came to it was already past noon. Enough time had passed for poor Caylee to die in the car. Or perhaps her and her bf were partying, left their drugs out and the poor Caylee got a hold of them and overdosed. Casey and the bf would have scrambled to cover it up. If intentional, she probably just couldn’t handle the stress of caring for her daughter on her own and leading a party life. After all, although she felt her mother was controlling, which I see as simply the gm stressing to her daughter to be more of a parent rather than a teenage partier, at least at home she had a live-in babysitter and she mostly came and went as she pleased. The gp did all of the parenting. So perhaps the stress of being on her own, and living with a new bf was really cramping her situation, she got a little too upset with the little girl and without the gp there to intervene lost control and hurt the child enough to kill her. Either way the bf probably does have more info. If not him, one or more of her friends may. I am sure the police are looking into things and not releasing all info to the public. After all, they have to possess enough evidence to be able to bring her to trial and prosecute successfully. The gp could easily help with the hiding of Caylee’s body as the father is a retired homicide cop and the mother is an RN. Both are well educated in human decomposition. However, they seem much too distraught over the loss of their grandchild for me to believe that. I think they are deeply concerned for Caylee’s welfare and desparately want her back. They definitely are more concerned than Casey. They are now bothered by all the negative media but I am sorry they brought it upon themselves. They know what an irresponsible, selfish person Casey is. But no parent wants to believe their child to be a murderer. Whatever it is that has happened, I feel it will be soon we have the answers. I hope I am right.
My heart goes out to those who truly loved and adored Caylee. Let all of us be thankful for the precious children in our lives. Please go home tonight after work and hold your children a little longer. Children are a gift. Let’s not take that for granted.
The dead father story seems very strange to me. My husband passed away when my children were little and they receive survivor benefits from social security. This family barely has a pot to piss in. I can’t imagine not receiving the benefits if eligible. I’ve never been so frustrated about a story like this in my life. Get with the program. What is going on????? I freak out if my 4 year old is out of my sight for a few minutes. Something other than that car stinks around here. And any pizza that I’ve had laying around doesn’t get an odor, just turns into a brick
The dead father story seems very strange to me. My husband passed away when my children were little and they receive survivor benefits from social security. This family barely has a pot to piss in. I can’t imagine not receiving the benefits if eligible. I’ve never been so frustrated about a story like this in my life. Get with the program. What is going on????? I freak out if my 4 year old is out of my sight for a few minutes. Something other than that car stinks around here. And any pizza that I’ve had laying around doesn’t get an odor, just turns into a brick.
That incest theory is really good, I never thought of it. It would definately account for why there is no fathers family. But, if Casey slept around a lot, and I have no way of knowing if she did, the dad may not even know she got pregnant. That happens all the time, people have a one night stand. The whole story is so reminescent of Laci Peterson, and we all know how that turned out. A lot of good questions on this board.
WOW every has about the same thinking on this situation, I agree the mother is guilty of something, she either partied all night and left her in the car and tried to cover it up because seriously who needs a shovel in florida. or maybe she just did kill her out of rage and didn’t mean to. i Also think how can someone show no remorse what so ever I mean NOTHING not even a tear, only when she found out they weren’t reducing her bail. Either she’s really heartless about her child and life itself or caylee is ok and something is going on that will be explained eventually. I just couldnt imagine not showing any kind of emotion and she laughs in the court house!!!!! Who laughs or cracks jokes in a time like this, she should not smile, laugh, or even put her head up…..she doesn’t even look like she has shed a tear, my eyes would be so puffy!!!! She looks stress free………Somethings not right!!! Casey does belong to stay in prison forever!! She doesn’t deserve a little girl like caylee…poor little girl has a screwed up mother, but those girls with the screwed up mothers always turn out better then there mother because they learn what they shouldn’t do and they do opposite. Anyways I think everyones outlook on this is sooooo possible and I can’t wait until this is solved I watch this everyday and if I miss the news i go on the computer to read what I missed……….I’m praying for the little girl I have a 4 year old and could not imagine harming him!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think Casey killed Caylee intentionally,you can tell by listening to her that she is self centered,and dosen’t give a flying hoot abouther daughter,I believe we will know all the answers soon.I pray that I’m wrong and this beautiful lttle girl is still alive.
I’ve been reading through alot of info and what i found interesting is This is what Nika says:
nika says:
i think that Casey is a victim of incest and her father is also Caylee’s father. and this is why there is no record of a father and this is why casey is a compulsive liar and shows little emotion- that’s what can happen to incest victims. i think Caylee became in danger of being an incest victim and either she was rapad and murdered by the grandfather or casey killed her in a type of defense. either way i think all three (grandmother, grandfather and Casey) worked together to get rid of the body. and Cindy is speaking in very specific terms when she says “there could be one or two reasons why Casey is not telling the truth and that somebody could be holding something over her head and threatening her in some way.” i think Casey has been living in an extreme state of conflict, being both a victim and a dependent mother and maybe she snapped- or maybe that grandfather did it. But either way- i think there is a deep back story here that actually makes everything make a certain sense and this is why the women in this family lie all the time and the grandfather is relatively silent.
This same comment has been made on numerous blogs throught the internet and to me it sounds like nika~ knows casey possiably a old friend who casey confided in. Too much personal info to make up, unless we have a socialpath on this blog!
Casey met boyfriend 40 days previous. Boyfriend DJ at nightclub. Casey decided wanted party life without child. Killed child, tried to bury child in parents’ yard, then realized would be found, so put child in trunk of car and drove and drove to remote area and disposed of body. Casey stole gas cans from parents’ home to have enough gas. Made charges on parent’s credit card for food, etc. Then made up story about babysitter. (Nobody knows or seen or met babysitter). To cover up, called friend and acted like child in background (told child to get off table). Fabricated phone call (1 min.) that child was on phone (talking to thin air).Casey ongoing lie after lie, about cell phones, Sim card,about everything. Just trying to delay things as long as she can because the longer time goes on, the more the body will decompose and there will be less evidence. She shows no emotion of a person with a missing child. Grandmother in denial that Casey would kill child. Brother is trying to help and seems innocent. Grandfather is just trying to help. P.S. I hope I am wrong. Such a beautiful child.
If it is true the cadavar dogs got 2 hits, one in the car trunk and one in the grandparents yard, then Casey has some questions to answer and IMO lil Caylee is no longer alive.
I keep reading that the dogs did get hits on human remains, i wonder what it takes to confirm this.
As a mother my worst fear is my daughter or son dissapearing. Any loving parent knows that feeling when your heart drops to your stomach when you turn around and your child goes under the rack of clothes or wanders off for a moment. You yell or run in circles acting a fool not caring about anything but finding them. How after that long are you not really acting a fool trying to find her. Put me away, fine question me find my baby! She knows what happened. Mistake or not. Do the right thing. Kids depend on us. Her mother my love her grandchild but is an attention slut. Denial is her defense. But her daughter is an adult. Her grandbaby is helpless. She is helping her daughter and not thinking about the helpless baby. Someone own up. Did the baby have a say in t
Its quite obvious the deception that is trying to be achieved. Someone needs to own up for this baby she is being forgotten to how tiny her voice is, but much more of a genuine beautiful soul then the family she was brought into. Only God and someone telling the truth can change this situation.
I don’t think Caylee is dead. I think that she got sold in the black market and the person that has her never paid them so they are trying to report her “missing” now. Why would a mother wait 31 days before reporting her child missing????? They need to really research on this lady that Casey keeps mentioning and find her ASAP. I think Caylee is in another country. The grandparents know what is going on and so does the whole family. The truth will get sonner or late.
Niki,
I would have never came up with that scenario in a million years. Kind of weird that would come to your mind. If you know anything about this case, you need to go to the police. Thanks.
Nichole said: I don’t think Caylee is dead. I think that she got sold in the black market and the person that has her never paid them so they are trying to report her “missing” now. Brad says: What makes you think that? Did Caylee and her accomplice think that no one would ask where Caylee is? If they would have paid they would have just waited until someone else reported Caylee missing? First, if that was true they would have planned a much better alibi/story, no I think what happened was unplanned and that is why the story has so many holes in it. Nichole said: They need to really research on this lady that Casey keeps mentioning and find her ASAP. Brad says: If she did not live where Casey showed them or work where she led them to, she has no phone numbers, people who have seen her in person, etc. then why should they believe this person exists? You can’t find an imaginary person! Nichole said:I think Caylee is in another country. The grandparents know what is going on and so does the whole family. The truth will get sonner or late. Brad says: Maybe they know what happened and maybe they don’t. Like others have said before in this blog: They may realize that Caylee is gone, and now they can try to save Casey or lose her too. I love when people try to bring the “black market/sex slave trade” into every discussion, next we’ll blame video games, porn, rap music, not being one with god, etc. I just don’t think the black market is where Caylee is and even if it is…Casey is not giving them any information to go on.
Hey, I think anything is possible. I think this Niki girl just put this together and thinks it sounds good. Who knows? Personally, I don’t think she knows anything. I also don’t think Grandpa or brother are the fathers. I simply think Casey is spoiled, got tired of this kid, either gave her away, or killed her. The babysitter is a decoy, and a dumb one at that.
I also don’t think a pizza ever smells to that point because it was once cooked and not raw. What is an old pizza doing in the trunk, anyhow? That is bologna. I also think the babysitter story is bologna. There is no such person. Casey isn’t too bright if she doesn’t realize the police can track down phone records and previous tenants. As far as Grandma. I have to think that the only thing she is guilty of is raising a spoiled brat. A lot of people have pointed the finger at her, but I honestly don’t think she knows what is going on. She appears to be sickened by the thought her granddaughter is missing or dead.
Casey may have taken the gas cans to burn Caylee’s body. She had credit cards for car gas when she had the car. So many questions I have:
Investigate when credit cards were used & check her car on surveilence when she was in store to see if Caylee or car seat is in car.
Investigate father of Caylee. That family may have taken Caylee to protect her from Anthonys. Is there a father’s name on birth certificate…public record.
When will we hear the results of evidence in car. If hair belonged to Caylee, can they tell if it was from live or dead body?
Also, I would like to hear telephone call she had with Tony. Is this a two-way relationship or is he out of the picture for her? Maybe their “relationship” was another distortion of Casey’s imagination.
The guys who took photos of her in club, do they have photos of babysitter from past? Casey said she was at club which babysitter frequented or was she at club boyfriend was DJ? Also, her new lawyer said she worked for that club, is he just passing on her lies? Can someone verify the last paycheck she received and from where?
I believe the Mom knows exactly where Caylee is and knows she is safe. That’s why she looks so relaxed in the court pictures that we have all seen. It was noted that the grandmother and Caylee were extremely close. Perhaps the Mom resented this and in her unstable manner, is punishing the grandmother.
First , the cops are being very tight lipped about this whole thing. I feel sure that they have checked out any and all of Casey’s contacts. They think Caylee is dead or there would be a search by now. The judge obviously knows more too, or else why would the bond be so high for such a minor charge. I think that possibly casey let Caylee drownd in the back yard pool, got her out and put her on the ground while she borrowed a shovel and then had second thoughts. She then loaded her in the car and went on the run. Maybe that’s why the gp said that she stole the car. Anyhow, I am sure that the cops know and are just gonna let her hang herself. (and how come she never complains about being in jail OR asks if anyone has found her daughter? she seems so happy and content!)
I agree with Mel. I don’t think it was intentional. I think that Casey was probably doing her own thing and left her in a hot car. Why would she borrow the neighbers shovel why her parents were out of town?
Like the judge said Casey and the truth are strangers. She is hiding alot. And why do the brother and GM walk on egg shells when talking to her? Like shes going to snap or something,she is disconnected and self absorbed. If my daughter did anything to my grand children (3) I personally would hang her up! I would not sacrifice my grandchildren for my daughter if she were crazy enough to hurt them!!! No truth in this family at all>
I am a mother of 4 college graduates, all in their 20’s. If Casey were my daughter I would literally choke the info out of her. Grandma needs to quit making excuses and make her daughter take responsibility. That would mean tough love..no jailhouse visits..no phone calls until I had the truth. It seems we can get more info from terrorists than we can from this little liar. Put me in that little tiny cell with her and let me stay until she spills the story. My kids will tell you if I were in that cell with her, she would be begging to tell the truth to get me off of her back
There is an awful lot of thinking going on here. I sure hope no one’s hurt themself!
Hi this is earth have you two met?
I don’t think Casey knows who the father is or doesn’t want anyone to know who the father is. It is very common for a Mother to use their maiden name on a birth certificate so to believe incest is involved because of the last name is not good.
I think the Grandmother knows more than she is willing to say. I think Casey was jealous of her daughter and something happened to her either by accident, too much partying and not paying attention to being a mother. I think it is now a mind game between Casey and Cindy.
Curious that the GrandPa is a former homicide investigator, you would think he would be out investigating. Regardless this is a very sad, difficult situation. Casey most definately has something wrong with her mentally and unfortunately a tiny little tot has paid the price for that
The thought of Casey’s father perhaps being Caylee’s father as well never crossed my mind…(thanks for the new thought) however, I must say, in observing the grandfather’s actions and demeanor in this case, this could very well be true. Also, when he took the stand for questioning (the video is online under “grandfather takes the stand”), I had not seen that much emotion (and tears) from Casey since this whole story hit the air… Go and check out the clip. I heard in some earlier stories that Caylee’s father was NEVER a part of her life, from day one..so I take it, Caylee’s father probably never even seen his daughter…you all know that this is such a true story in so many children’s life. not an unheard of or impossible thing to occur…there are several kids out here that because of the non relationship that the mother and the father have, results in the child NEVER having the real father in their life (and even perhaps even never ever meeting the father).
Again, thanks for the NEW Thought.
tjaye
Didn’t Casey say she didn’t report it because she was afraid they would harm Caylee?? I think this is going to be her alibi – she is going to say that whoever took Caylee killed her and put her in the trunk and abandoned the car to set Casey up.
Caylee’s father died in a car accident. He did exist you can look on Casey’s myspace and view comments people left after his death. The whole case is bizarre. I know Casey knows more than she claims though, I also feel that the police are not doing all they can in finding this little girl. Everyone really is acting like she is already dead, when we do not know for sure she is. The police need to start looking on more leads. Why not investigate every phone number on Casey’s cell phone, ehy not further question the boyfriend this whole story is weird and gets weirder everyday when there is still a little girl missing out there. My heart goes out to Caylee! I hope and pray she is alive.
It is sad that a child so young is missing and possibly no longer alive. Emotions are running high – rightfully so – and I believe this has prevented everyone from considering the facts of this case objectively. Consider the known facts:
1. Casey is the last person who was with Caylee. Her story about the “nanny” is simply not true because no evidence of the nanny being a real person has surfaced. The apartment where Casey claimed the nanny lived was proven to be vacant during the time period in question.
2. Two separate cadaver dogs alerted to human remains both in the car trunk and the Anthony’s backyard. Even if you assume for a moment that the dogs were alerting to remains other than Caylee’s, the question then becomes “who else is missing from the area and why would they end up in the Anthony’s backyard or the car?” The only missing person that can be tied to both the car and the backyard is Caylee. These dogs are specifically trained to NOT alert on anything other than human remains. It’s the same with other police dogs: bomb dogs don’t alert on drugs and drug dogs don’t alert on bombs; and neither will alert to human remains, and vice versa. The dogs were clearly alerting to Caylee’s remains.
3. Casey borrowed a shovel from her parent’s neighbors. Why? There had to be a reason, otherwise why borrow it? Unless someone can prove me wrong, a shovel is used for digging and moving dirt. From everything I’ve learned about Casey’s life, she wasn’t an avid gardener or landscaper.
4. Dirt was found in the trunk of Casey’s car. The same car trunk that the cadaver dogs alerted on.
5. Cindy stated that the car smelled like a dead body had been in it. Being an RN, it’s reasonable to assume that she would recognize the smell of a dead body. This is the same car the cadaver dogs alerted on. The dogs would not alert to garbage or spoiled food. Being a long-time college student, I can tell you from personal experience that old pizza left in a car doesn’t smell that bad. It’s unpleasant to be sure, but to be mistaken for a dead body, not a chance.
6. Casey’s statements and time lines have constantly contradicted each other. She is clearly not being truthful. The judge immediately recognized this fact.
7. Casey has shown little to no emotion during this entire ordeal. She has been seen laughing, smiling, joking, and completely at ease. People, specifically friend of the Anthony family “Cheryl”, have claimed that Casey couldn’t possibly have murdered her own child with this type of demeanor. Remember the Susan Smith case? She was laughing and squirting silly string over the graves of the children she killed without showing the least amount of remorse or emotion. This is the behavior of a sociopath.
When the facts stated above are considered objectively, there is only one conclusion to draw: Casey killed Caylee and disposed of her body. The motive is a common one, and one similar to Susan Smith’s: the mother wants to return to her pre-children life; the single life when she didn’t have the burden of a child and could enjoy all the freedoms that type of life provides. I believe the remainder of the details and the roles of the other players will eventually come out, but that doesn’t amount to much when you consider that Caylee is dead. This may sound like a cold and unfeeling analysis of the situation, but the only way to uncover the truth is to look at the facts objectively and draw the only logical conclusion.
Susan Smith did not spray silly string over the graves of her sons. That was another woman whose name escapes me at present (Carlie or something similar) and she was convicted of knifing two of her three young sons to death with the story that an intruder had entered her home and murdered her children. Susan Smith was infatuated with a man who had told her he did not want the responsibility of children so she decided to eliminate her children so the man she was interested in would not have an excuse and she buckled them securely into their little car seats and sent the car into the lake, drowning them.
She also made up stories of the children and car being stolen but at least put on a tearful act for the cameras which Ms. Anthony seems incapable of doing.
The thing about liars is that they think they are smarter than anyone else but the truth always comes out. That poor little child.
the mom’s name was Darlie Routier that squirted the silly string.She was the Texas mom that stabbed her boys. I’d like to know how long Casey kept the shovel and did the neighbor see the car leave before she returned it or after? Casey and her brother are speaking in some sort of kryptic code. They are talking without saying much. Anyway, I heard Geraldo say that you CAN NOT lie to the FBI and they are definitely on the case. Also, a reporter said that Casey also lied to her boyfriend Tony and DJ about Caylee’s whereabouts, saying that she was with Cindy, at the park, etc…
Here is my 1st reaction to this story:
I just don’t understand…I have two little girls and just started following this story. I look at them and think how I would go completely crazy if I didn’t know where they were. She has no emotion at all!!!!
It appears that all of us, people who have no connection to this child at all, are more concerned for her than her own mother.
Even if she is found not guilty for whatever crime may have been committed, she should be charged for some type of emotional homicide that she is committing to to her daughter.
Then I start to think about Casey:
Casey appears to have her own life going on and there’s no telling what was really going on when Caylee was in her care. Maybe a family member, friend or even stranger felt that they were saving the little girl from a situation unknown to others and Casey was just glad to not have the “burden” of motherhood so she never reported it.
I think she knows who has her but she just doesn’t want her back. Her mother turned her in and she may be going through the motions of all this drama to keep her family from knowing how much she just didn’t want to be a mother. She could be thinking that she wouldn’t even want her own family to have legal custody of her as well…maybe it would be too much of a constant reminder for her to see her with family and in her own twisted mind felt like this was a better solution to her own issues…
I’m going to stay optomistic on this one and hope that Caylee is okay and being taken care of and Casie is just an unstable young mother that didn’t know how to handle a situation. All this may have sounded like a good idea until the mom got involved and she went into panic mode with all these lies. I hope all the other leads they have were just coincidental, at least that still gives hope that Caylee is okay.
We will continue to keep her in our thoughts and prayers…
This whole case absolutely sickens me!!!! I just hope and pray that someone really does have Caylee and that is why Casey shows no emotion. Being a mom of 4 I cant help but put my 2 year old in caylees position and that is what sickens me… I just dont even want to think of anything bad that could have happened. May God be with Caylee and may God be with Casey on Judgement day!!!!!
The only problem with the theory of someone having Caylee is the decomposition odor, stains, dirt and hair found in the car trunk.
Apparently the lab tests must have come back since the police were at the house and left with two bags of evidence after the grandparents met with police and the grandfather arrived with them to let them in.
Surely, with the lab results, additional charges will be brought and Casey will then be forced to reveal the location of her daughter.
I’ve been watching CNN/Nancy Grace every night hoping to hear that Caylee has been found safe but as the days pass I don’t think she’ll be found alive or otherwise. My heart aches thinking of what Casey may have done to her daughter just so she can live the life of a 22 year young woman with no children. It drives me crazy that her parents and brother seem to believe everything Casey says. She’s shown no remorse (except in court she shed a few tears probably thinking about her pending days in jail). I have a 3 year daughter and can’t imagine her being missing for 31 minutes let alone 31 days. It would literally kill me. The whole case is horribly sad and the even sadder thing is that Caylee is a 2 year old child that doesn’t deserve any of this. Keeping her in my prayers.
Unfortunately nothing we have heard adds up. As for the father of Caylee- he may not know he’s the father, Casey may have never told him. Or he may have known and chose not to be in his child’s life.
If someone did see Caylee at the airport, why call the GM and not notify the airport authority?
How does the GM know that from Atlanta Caylee is headed to Charlotte NC?
Couldn’t it be possible that Casey felt neglected because Caylee has been the center of attention instead of her and she concocted this plan to get her attention back and it some way back fired?
GM has said she’s given Casey a month-did she know about it before hand and gave her daughter a chance to find her before getting authorities involved?
Why is Casey saying the last time she saw her daughter was June 9 and the GM says June 15?
Could there be a possibility that if there was a baby sitter like she says..that she has a different name? And what if the baby sitter got tired of practically raising Caylee that she just decided to just keep her and not give her back.
Or what if Casey did know who the father is and decided to confront the family and the father’s family took Caylee.
And then there is the unfortunate where she could’ve left her in the car in the extreme heat.
This is the year 2008 many women today have children without notifing the father that they were pregnant or birthed a child this could very well explain the father of paternal grandparents not coming forward, it is possible they are not aware a child exists.
Also I typed in the so called nanny’s name in myspace and to my surprise there is 3 pages with this exact name.
Sure, there are many people with the babysitter’s name, so how come absolutely no one has come forward tto say that they know this woman? Not a neighbor, a store clerk, someone from a social services agency, a paperboy or mail carrier. Come on, someone would have known if this person lived in that apt. complex. If Casey and Caylee frequented her home, there would have to be some trace. Nope, after today’s return to the GP home, the authorities know something, and I think that we will all know very soon.
I am going to go out on a limb here for a moment and do something that nobody else here has done. I must admit that @ first glance of this story on the news I jumped too the same conclusion as everyone else here has…and that is exactly what law enforcement wanted us to do. They have continually “prosecuted” this case in the media because they lack “real” evidence needed to bring more charges…however they new that a story like this would bring such outrage that they could effectively turn the tide of public opinion their way no matter what the facts. I agree that this girl is completely lost, but has anyone considered what she has obviously been through in her life. She is a young mother, the father of her baby died, she was facing the probability of living on her own for the first time and raising her baby and also pampering a new relationship.
I submit to you this scenario and ask why isnt this as likey as the sick, grisly things that have been imagined here.
I am a mother of a two year old, I was also formerly a nanny with 7 years of experience. I had a great relationship with the kids I watched and still love and see them to this day. During my time as a nanny, the two children I cared for frequently stayed with me and my family overnight and even for weekends and weeks when the situation warranted. If at any point I had called the parents of these children and said, im taking my kids to the amusment park or the beach and I would like to bring you kids along with me, there would have been no hesitation or restistance…I mean after all I had been entrusted with these kids lives for 10-12hrs a day for years….why not a fun outing. Who is to say Casey didnt recieve a call extending Caylee’s visit for whatever reason…I mean obviously she had other things to enjoy, clubbing with her new man, so why not let Caylee stay over…then by the time she realized there was a problem she was embarrassed and ashamed she didnt know where to find her child and paniced. Maybe thats why she got fired…missing work to look for her kid, maybe thats why she stole…i know I would steal for mine…maybe thats why she stayed away from her parents, she couldnt face them and tell them how bad she had messed up. I cant imagine knowing the bond of a mother/child that she would just throw her hands up in the air and say “oh well”. I find this more believable than selling children, incest or anything else posted here. As mothers we are often hardest on ourselves, maybe she couldn’t face what was going on until she had a plan…and that would be a tough thing to compose with no money or resources. Bottom line all of these people involved are human beings and the most important and helpless one of all is Caylee. In their attempt to make a case where one does not exist I charge that the police have completly mishandled “the search for Caylee Anthony”, instead they have commited what amounts to HIGHLY NEGLIGENT BEHAVIOR in delaying the involvment of the FBI or other means of locating this victim. I am looking at this thru the eyes of a mother…not a monster, which is the view everyone else has seemed to take. Please put the focus of this investigation back where it belongs…on this child!
I entirely agree with (12)x – I too saw some sociopathic behavior in Casey’s phone call with her brother. She did say, “All you care about is finding Caylee” – inferring they didnt care about her, then she quickly fixed her statement with, “And that’s all I care about too.” – Mothers constantly worry about their children. As a mom myself, if I were locked up and didnt know where my kiddo was, I would completely lose my mind and require a sedative to calm me down, nothing, not even a criminal investigation, a judge, a lawyer, nothing stops a mother’s quest to find their child. It doesnt matter what she is in for, she is not thinking about where her child might be and I think it is because she already knows she is dead. Very sad story, and I hope I am wrong, but I see Casey’s parents as enablers of Casey’s refusal to grow up. I think Casey got mad because her mother tried to discuss moving out, and so she did the ultimate thing to hurt her mother, she hurt Caylee.
I, too, think that the FBI has the case about wrapped up. They are making the communications open to the media to shut her & her family up, so they can finish their investigation. My logical brain thinks that Caylee is dead…but I am really hopeful in my heart that she is still alive. Another off-the-wall theory: the “dead body” smell could be someone else, and Caylee is being held hostage because the Anthony’s know the story…but then again, that could just be what Casey wants everyone to believe, and being the pathological liar that she is, she could also have ice water running through her viens, which explains the lack of emotion over the loss of her daughter.
Fearing the worst, hoping for the best
HEY…..give the grandmother a break ALREADY. did it EVER occur to ANY of you that JUST MAYBE the grandmother was “going along with’ what Casey has been saying in order to try and find her grandchild? None of knows what we would do ….because MOST OF US have never been in this situation. What I KNOW is….I WOULD DO ANYTHING…say anything to my daughter…make her believe ANYTHING…in order to try and find out the TRUTH about my grandchild.
Don’t point fingers at this grandmother…..I’m sure she is doing the best she can in a VERY VERY DIFFICULT situation.
Just my humble opinion.
I have a question. How do they think maggots got in the trunk on the pizza? Possibly from a dead body maybe? I hate to think that, but how else?? I really think Casey left her car with her purse and keys in front of a check cashing place because she thought that would be the perfect spot for someone to steal it, and get rid of the evidence, but no one did. Anyone else think this??
Hey,you know the whole incest thing that Nika brought up and the combination of the two sibling names is very interesting.Something is not adding up in this family they are all acting like they have something to hide.They are going around in circles one lie catching the other.The grandmother was not prepared for the attention this case is getting and now she is panicked and it is very obvious.I just hope it dos’nt fade away and its another unsolved mystery.You know how that goes.
I am baffled. To say the least. My take on this is a beautiful daughter Caycee and a controlling mother Cindy. Grnddaughter caught in the middle. Grandfather and brother so used to saying nothing..they say nothing. Grandamother gets tired of daughter partying and not working and they have an argument and daughter and granddaughter leave house..thrown out. Neither are speaking. Daughter in with wrong crowd. Grandmother again gets angry when she wants the granddaughter and she and daughter argue again and grandmother calls 911.
Remember grandmother is a nurse and grandfather is retired police.
That slab in the back yard seems very suspicious.
The calls back and forth with daughter and brother are just plain wierd.
Grandmother waivers between anger and controlling daughter with “things” again.
I think daughter, because of her looks, ran the home show but when mother had enough they argued and bad things happened when unemployed daughter hit the streets with little innocent granddaughter. She kept bad company.
Sorry to say I think the little one is gone.
Somebody somewhere would have come forward by now if she was still alive.
If we all get it..why doesn’t the grandmother, Cindy get it??????
Did you see the look on daughters face in courtroom when she spotted parents with her big smiling “Hi”. She won’t tell what happened to her little daughter because she knows her mother will once again turn her back on her. She dreads being alone in jail.
No back yard slab, only pavers says sherrif’s office spokesman. They already moved those and checked ground.
I think Nikki should check into a career in law enforcement or being a private detective – very insightful!
A news station did test out the pizza theory and said they left it in the car for 12 days and it didn’t smell all that bad and only turned into a “brick”.
Also, the inmate who said Casey told him her baby was with an ex boyfriend, additionaly said that she smiled when she said it. Wouldn’t Caylee’s deceased father also be considered and ex boyfriend of Casey’s? Possibly a slip of a half truth if Caylee is indeed deceased that she would be with her father who is also deceased.
Casey supposedly called her current boyfriend, Tony when she parked the car at the cash checking business and told him it was out of gas but not to worry about it because her father would take care of it. Her Mother, Cindy, found out where the car was after it was towed and she got a certified letter notifying her of where the car had been impounded. I think she contacted Casey when she found the car, noticed the odor and couldn’t get a straight answer from Casey via cell phone or text – and that’s what started the calls to law enforcement.
the anthony family as someone stated “doesn’t have a pot to piss in”(no money). and casey hasn’t had a real job since before caylee was born, she does contract work (not regular). Then why does her daughter need a nanny, how does she pay for a nanny? and if she doesn’t have a nanny then where does caylee stay when shes out? if zanadia in not a real person then who’s been babysitting? My husband and i both work full time and thank god we don’t have to pay for a nanny!
Ok so this story has been making my mind run in circles from the start. I just went to the helpfindcaylee.com website and am even more convinced that poor Caylee will not be found alive. On the website it gives the Anthony residence phone number. Why would you post that??? Not once but twice? Not only that but they are asking for gift cards to help find Caylee. Gas cards yeah but gift cards to Target and Walmart for what? I don’t get it. Also they are asking for volunteers personal assistants for the grandpa and uncle? Did I miss something here? I have never seen such a thing. I whole heartedly feel all of the family know something. Someone needs to speak up so this little girl can rest in peace.
I agree with so many of you. I too was captivated by this story from the first moment I learned of Caylee’s disappearance. One of my first thoughts was that everything sounded fishy, but it has really gotten out of hand! Anyhow, when I had those intitial thoughts, and before this bizarreness panned out, I thought something similar along the lines of incest…not so much the whole scenario presented here, more like there was a deep dark secret and Casey had to leave to protect Caylee, like she didn’t trust leaving her with grandparents. Some days I think she is a killer, other days, selfish and oblivious…but everyday she opens her mouth or shows her face, she is completely disingenuous. You are all right about her looking calm. Somehow, her calmness made me think she knows exactly where Caylee is and that she is safe. Then other days when all this “evidence” adds up to a sweet child who is no longer with us and needs to be brought home for a proper burial. I wish I could know in my heart that Caylee is alive & well. But one thing is for sure: her family (all of them) are all nuts, each of a different variety than the last. I am certain that the Police know MANY answers and I applaud them for their lack of leaks. Everyday I turn on the tv & check online to see if Caylee has re-appeared. I just hope this does not come to be one of those cases where we never find her or find out the truth. If Casey has any say-so, you can bet the truth will not be spoken by her, obviously. The point about everyone walking on eggshells with her…I noticed that, too. Why doesn’t any family member scream at her & demand answers? Most likely because she’s the craziest in the bunch and they have lots of prior knowledge about her ability to flip out. This is one case that is so perplexing from one day to the next. None if it adds up. So far, no “Aha” moments. Just one weird batch of BS followed by yet another.
Dear God, please protect Caylee from harm and bring her back into the light. (I just speak from my heart, free-verse. I have no prior connection to this beautiful child or her lunatic family members). And although I am not a church-goer or anything remotely like it, I am very spiritual and I do believe in God. And I do believe God knows exactly who did what in regards to Caylee.
Whether Casey gets enough rope to hang herself or show us the money reamins to be seen. However, I think the wreckless, selfish, greedy young mother needs to be released from jail with a GPS Home Detention device…a guilty conscience always returns to the scene of the crime. She can’t do that when she’s behind bars. She might be a liar, but I am certain she will lead the way if released.
Unuf’ said….srqmom
I put the most stock in the cadaver dog’s alerting. Two dogs separately identified the same sites. My daughter has a medical alert dog, he responds to her diabetes but scent. I have seen just how reliable scent-trained dogs are. They are truly amazing and we have never once, in more than a year had a false alert.
Dogs do not lie. People do!
I am a mother of 2 children and when they leave my sight for 5 mins i go into a panic. I could not imagine not reporting my children missing for 30 days. I believe she killed her daughter out of rage and panicked about the situation and now shes lieing to everyone. I hope and pray that my fears of the beautiful little girl being dead are wrong. I hope that her sorry mother or whatever you want to call her suffers for all she has done to her child.
The grandmother knows more than what she is revealing. I saw her on some show Thursday night & she was talking in circles, excuse after excuse & overuse of “you know”. All I could think was LIAR! You know something!
I, too, was shocked by the benefits & the ads for personal assistant (unpaid positions of course) for the grandpa & the uncle. WTF? Are you serious? Also for the request for donations: how do we know where the money will end up? Casey is still not telling everything she knows, and the grandparents aren’t either. Why reward or help a family that can’t help themselves by starting out with the truth?
1. The grandparents/brother are trying to get info from Casey, they know she’s a nut. They know she watches the TV coverage, so they can’t blast her to the media or else she would never talk to them.
2. I think Casey is a complete sociopath. It’s all about her. Never once on those tapes has she asked about the progress made on finding Caylee. She never asks what they are doing to try and find her, because she knows they won’t find her. This nut job did it.
3. When the DNA evidence comes back from the lab and it shows it was Caylee in the trunk, her lawyer will try and broker a deal. He will ask to put Casey in a mental health facility and in exchange Casey (the nut) will tell them where Caylee is. The grandparents want Caylee’s body and this will be the only way nut job will tell them.
Here is the real botom line. i am a mom and if my child is out of my control for 5 mins, i get the shakes. You couldn’t shut me up either if i was in jail while the country searched for my child. i would be talking to the police, media, FBI, CIA, the mafia and anyone who would listen. i don’t believe there was a nanny. I also fear this child is with God. i doubt tht her remains, frail and tiny will ever be found after this much time n the Florida sun. Casey had better get comfy behind bars right where she belongs.
My 26 year old daughter.. mother of two toddlers..asked me an interesting question yesterday.
Are we sure there really IS a Caylee? I haven’t heard any comments from anyone other than immediate family.. no pictures of pregnant Casey or baby Caylee..
Yes, I know those would have no bearing on NOW, but if she is such a “loving” mother, shouldn’t SOMEONE other than the grandparents know something about her?
And.. we both agree with all you moms and grandmothers.. if MY little one was missing.. I’d be
sorry! hit “send” too soon!
I have been watching the news every single day for new info on this case. It is a very intriguing case and one like i have never seen before.
The mom is a complete sociopathic liar.
I really do think that Caylee was left in her car all day and died in the heat. I think Casey then put her in the trunk until she could figure out what to do with her. She then went to her parents house, I think they helped her try to cover it up and they buried the body in their yard. I think they then knew that they had to move that body (the cadaver dog smelled human remains in their yard and the car). I think the parents have been in on this all along and Casey is protecting them and they’re protecting her. At some point they knew that they had to call the police because eventually other people would find out Caylee was missing.
It was very odd to me on the first 911 call that Casey just sat in the car with her mom while her mom called the police to turn her in. Why would someone do that? If she was in trouble, it would make more sense for her to try and run and hide rather than just sit in the car with her mom while her mom calls the cops on her. She’s obviously done a good job of running and hiding seeings how she was missing for a month….
I think the parents are helping Casey cover up and that is why this was not reported for a month. I think the whole family has used that month to cover it all up and destroy the body. I don’t think Caylee is ever going to be found unless someone breaks. I think they should start using some torture tactics on them all until they confess because we all know Casey did it and her family helped her cover!!
It is all very odd and I am just out of my mind sad for that little girl. That whole family is messed up!
Okay,
1. Accidental death of Caylee (hot car probably)
2. Casey gets scared and calls Grand Dad the retired cop.
3. Grand Dad shows up, takes body and burns it, hides it or whatever else a retired cop knows how to do.
4. Grand Dad “stages” car.
5. Grand Dad and Casey don’t tell grand ma what happened until they can come up with some kind of story like she gave the kid up for adoption or something.
6. Grandma starts worrying about Caylee before Grand Dad and Casey come up with a good story.
7. Grandma calls cops BUT Casey tells her what really happened.
8. Grandma changes story at this time because her husband is involved. Imagine losing your husband, daughter and grand daughter all at once.
9. NOW..the entire family, except brother, is conspiring to cover up the death of a little girl.
10. Bottom line, no body no murder. They are leaking and or fabricating evidence that Caylee is alive. If the DNA is inconclusive then Casey will walk out of that jail next week. I must admit that this is a very tight family. They all seem to have an attitude of them against us no matter what.
I think that’s how it played out.
I seen on myspace that the grandmother wrote that caylee disappeared because of jealousy.Im thinking casey killed this little angel but I hope Im wrong. I think caylee was buried in grandparents back yard then she was taken somewhere else. I hope she is still alive but my feelings tell me caylee with God.
The inmate(William) that Casey spoke to in jail stated that Casey said, “Caylee is with my ex-boyfriend” and then smiled at him after she said it ..freaky! Could it mean that Caylee is with her father(ex-boyfriend who died in a car crash) in heaven? After all, she was last seen on Father’s Day, June 15. I know it sounds twisted and maybe I watch too many weird movies, but could this be Casey’s father’s day present to daddy? Just a thought.
I have share the observation of Mom of 3 in WA and Moe. The website asks for grocery store gift cards….how does this expedite the finding of Caylee? It also asks for food; how is sending food to the Anthony’s going to help find Caylee? Lee Anthony is asking for a personal assistant to help schedule meetings for him, travel out of state, and to attend to the needs of the Anthony family. How does any of this lead to the finding of Caylee? These people are beyond crazy.
But here is the real question: According to both Cindy and George Anthony, their conversations with Casey have indicated that she knows exactly where Caylee is and that she is safe; and both parents have stated that she is telling the complete truth. Cindy has stated that she knows exactly what happened. So why is it necessary to organize such an elaborate search? If Cindy knows exactly what happened and who has her, why not just go and retrieve Caylee?
Another interesting factoid: George filed for divorce back in December 2005. Roughly 4 months after the birth of Caylee.
The OCSO has contacted the paternal grandparents. Although they were shocked by the entire situation, they knew nothing about the whereabouts of Caylee.
I have been unable to find an FBI statistic that I read a few years ago: it stated the drastic percentage decrease in the chances of finding someone alive after they have been missing for more than 48 hours. With the massive amount of press coverage, and without anyone coming forward with information, and more damning things come to light everyday, it seems less and less likely that Caylee is alive.
Cindy Anthony says we should focus on Caylee. I think we need to focus more on Cindy:
1)She initially stated the last time she saw Caylee was June 9th; she then said it was June 15th. It’s interesting that June 9th is the date Casey used in the 911 call made by Cindy.
2)She said the trunk of Casey’s car smelled like a dead body. She then said it was just pizza. WFTV totally debunked this.
3)She initially denied knowing the “nanny” Zenaida; she then said she did know her, just never met her.
4)She initially said she had no idea who had Caylee. She then told WESH news that the babysitter had her. Cindy’s behavior and speech during that interview were just bizarre.
5)She stated Casey worked for Kodak at Universal. This has been proven to be false.
Even if Cindy did believe this, why would her daughter, who had no real living expenses, need to steal money from her?
6)Cindy stated during the 911 call that her daughter had been missing for a month. She then stated that Casey had taken Caylee for a mini-vacation to “bond”.
7)On the first 911 call, Cindy stated that Casey had stolen her car; but then we found it was Casey’s own car. You can’t steal your own car.
8)Cindy and George reported 2 gas cans stolen; the OCSO CSI then removed 2 gas cans from their home.
One of the proven characteristics of a liar is dry mouth. During both of Cindy’s interviews on Larry King she was constantly gulping water. I have seen Larry interview many people, but never saw any of them constantly gulp water like Cindy.
Hopefully the truth will come out with the forensics results this week.
Since Casey told George this weekend that “Caylee is close dad, she’s close” and that she expected her to be home for her birthday party this weekend and George says he believes his daughter is telling the truth, he can call off the search, right?
Have phone records been looked at between Grandma, Grandpa and Casey during the time that Caylee disappeared?
If a flurry of phone calls exist, that didn’t normally occur between them, then that shows they know more than what they are letting on.
I have to agree with X, I think Casey displays all the signs of being a sociopath; the habitual lying and stealing, the phone conversation where she whined about everyone only being concerned with finding Caylee. IMO, she killed that little girl because she was standing in the way of something she wanted…be it a man or something material (a new coat). Although, Nika’s theory about incest doesn’t sound too far off the mark either. I know of cases where the incest continues well beyond the age of consent, right into adulthood….guess we’ll just have to stay tuned and watch it unravel, unless this turns out to be another Jon Benet Case.
Lots of interesting comments. I think it all boils down to the fact that Casey is a very spoiled and immature 22 year old mother. This may be 2008, but a 22 year old parent shouldn’t be sponging off her own parents. So what if being a single mom is the “in thing.” If you’re old enough to bring a child into the World, then you should be old enough to support it yourself and old enough to know that living the party life doesn’t fit in anymore. You can’t have it both ways without trouble. Anyhow, I still say that Casey is too selfish to have her little girl spoil her fun, (and I don’t believe what happened was any accident). Sadly, I think we all know Caylee is gone….
I believe that the authorities are now being more hush about the whole thing because they have a lot more information. I am sure that the DNA results are already back and they are withholding them from the public, for good reason. I am confident that we will all know the truth very soon. I just read that a deal is now on the table to get Casey to talk. http://www.wftv.com/news/17090663/detail.html
I am sure her attorney is hoping to spare her the death penalty if she gives up Caylee’s body. The police probably have everything else to prosecute and just want the body to (1) put the family at ease and (2) solidify the conviction. I hope I am wrong and they find Caylee alive. But in my heart and soul I am sure I am right. I am completely involved in this case. I think about Caylee day and night. I constantly check online for any updates.
Casey is definitely a sociopath much like Scott Petersen, who still maintains his innocence. BASTARD! Lacy is from my town here and was a lovely person. She and Conner did not deserve their lives being cut short at the hands of that animal.
Poor little Caylee did not do anything to deserve this either. She suffered her fate at the hands of her sociopathical mother.
I pray Casey suffers for what she has done.
She is most likely dead. After seeing the pictures of the missing girls mother partying while her daughter was missing pretty much says it all. Her lame story is so full of it. The Grandma is just as nuts.
Fess up, and let the poor child have a proper burial.
I am 22 years old and I have a 2 yr old little girl and I think I speak for all the parents that have posted comments on this site that Casey Anthony is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Her urge to still be youthful and party with no responsibilities most likely took over and she could’ve been experiencing depression as a lot of women experience especially first time moms, after giving birth to their child/ren. I personally think she suffers from depression and kept it hidden from most of her friends, but I know the family must have known how unfit of a mother Casey was especially after hearing the 911 calls and the way the family speaks to her over the phone. To me, it’s almost as if they know for a fact that she killed her and they sweet talk her to try and get whatever they can out of her to try and make themselves look better not to find poor Caylee. My theory is the family knows exactly what happened to Caylee and they’re all dragging this on to save Casey’s ass. I also know that if something happened to my little girl I would not be able to function as a normal adult much less take pictures with my friend’s at the club. What is really the saddest part of all of this is that Caylee was missing for 31 days and not one person asked for her or looked for her or even reported her missing until Casey was forced to do so. I don’t think poor Caylee ever had a chance…
Cindy schedules visit with Casey at 1pm today.
My first reaction to this is as follows:
This visit comes the day after the family was interviewed on Monday August 4th. I believe they told Cindy and George what the DNA revealed. So this visit is to get Casey to finally tell the truth.
OR
This visit is to “tip off” Casey that they know something about the case. This way she can change her story yet again.
Since the police department handling this case seem dumbfounded its not out of the realm of possibilities that Cindy would be able to tip off Casey.
Lock em all up I say. One of them will crack eventually.
I 99.9% believe Caylee is no longer with us and Casey knows exactly what happened to her and where she is.
My very small ray of hope is that Casey and Cindy are playing mind games with each other and one of them could be hiding that child somewhere.
uh oh… looks like they will be testing DNA from the supposed deceased father of Caylee to determine paternity. http://www.wftv.com/news/17091439/detail.html
Casey may have more explaining to do…
Maybe that crazy incest theory has some validity after all… we shall see…
I am suspicious that Caylee was in debt for money and possibly used little Caylee for money (renting out the child to pervs) and something happened to her.
My other suspicion is that something happened to little Caylee whether intentional or by accident and Casey drove around with her body in the trunk. Casey seems to have some sort of mental illness, so does the grandmother.
Anyway, When the grandmother became confrontational i’m wondering if Casey gave in and finally told her what happened. That gave time for the “grandparents” to get out of town and Casey to follow through with disposing of the body. Meantime the grandparents facilitated everything for Casey to dispose of little Caylee (being the grandfather has police experience?).
Everything is just too weird, this case is more strange than the Polly Klas case.
What kind of family quizzes each other in a matter of fact yes or no conversation. Doesn’t happen.
I still hope Caylee is alive somewhere, the hope is dwindling very fast. I keep hoping this is some sort of publicity stunt by a bunch of sicko’s and she really is ok and maybe the mysterious father took her.
At this point only the DNA results can shed anymore light on this bizarre freak show of a case.
The time line is all screwed up and just shows this family is certainly not mentally stable.
In my opinion this is what happened. Her parents wanted he to move out and take on more responsibility as a mother to Caylee, so she agreed and she took Caylee with her. Once Casey realized how difficult it was to supervise Caylee and that her life with her new boyfriend would be better without Caylee, she came up with the plan. Remember “Susan Smith”? I don’t think the child was left in a hot car, someone would have seen Caylee in the car alone and called the police. It would be interesting to find out what purchases Casey made on her mothers credit cards. I think she may have given her sleeping pills, she then put the body in the trunk, and someone in her family helped her move the body from the trunk to the back yard of the grandparents house, thus the dogs detecting a scent of decomp in the trunk and in the back yard… I think Casey’s father told her and maybe Lee to remove the body from the property. When someone tells a story of events and they are lying about the story, somewhere in that story you should find some truth, names, places and times maybe. I think Caylee is dead and she maybe in Blanchard Park. The phone calls between her and Lee are nothing but them misleading us and covering up.
This case is definitely bizare! I think that
Casey’s pathological lying stems from early childhood and not bonding properly with Mother. I also suspect she was jealous of seeing her Mother’s love and adoration of her daughter.
I believe that the “Nanny” that Casey speaks about is really a pseudo-personality of hers. I think she probably thought of herself of being a Nanny, for Nannies typically live with the family of the child.
I also think that Mom Cindy knew that her credit card was stolen, but didn’t act on it immediately. The details of what the $45,000 dollars that were spent have been kept under wraps. Most credit card companies will notify its client immediately when purchases seem atypical or whenever transactions suddenly increase.
I hope that Caylee’s disappearance is solved and the guilty parties are brought to justice!
i think that the daughter did something to the child and the grandparents are covering for her
I found the Police report of Casey’s written statements where an important piece of information was revealed.
Casey moved in with her newly acuired boyfriend “Tony” on June 9, 2008, the same day she packed up Caylee and left her parents’ house. She and Caylee had previously been at Tony’s on July 2, 2008 and swam at the pool in his complex. Tony gave a sworn statement that this is the last time he saw the child. He did say that Casey told him that Caylee was with her Nanny and was being taken to places like Disney, the beach, etc…
I think that Casey planned on murdering Caylee so she would be freed up to be with Tony. I think she took Caylee back to his complex pool and caused her to drown. Then she wrapped her in a towel and put her in the trunk of the car, until she could dispose of the body.
I think she eventually burnt the body afer stealing gas cans out of her parent’s shed. (Mom Cindy tried to exonerate Casey from this connection by saying that no one but she and her husband George had keys to their sheds. yeah, right!)
Casey used her Mom’s credit card(s) until she no longer couldn’t, then she stole $$$ from Amy, a friend that loaned her her car for a week.
Without a body, Casey can only be tried on circumstantial evidence.
I am facinated with this case as is everybody else. They are all attractive people. I can’t bring myself to even think they killed that child.
Are there any blogs where Caseys friends are discussing all of this? They must know something.
How come the fathers family never knew about the child? Was he the father or another lie she told.
The mother is a nitwit. Turns the daughter in and then patronizes her. No wonder the daughter is so mixed up.
The daughter is controlling everybody. Did you see her face light up for the lawyer when she entered the courtroom? She really knows how to turn it on and off.
Cute girl with absolutely no quality.
Now she has everybody hanging on til Saturday when Caylee is supposed to all of a sudden appear.
What a fake she is.
i don’t know how to post a link, but if you go to foxnews.com just about any article on casey there is a timeline link at the bottom of the article. there is one titled the pieces are starting to come together. in that article there is a link to my space exchanges between casey and cindy. after reading this i feel the 2 of them had a fight and casey left with the child and killed her so her mom would never see her again. she is a very self centered person and her mom is just holding on to the hope that casey did not kill the child but instead just left her with someone who kidnapped her. at first i thought well maybe caylee died accidently, and casey is covering it up. but after reading thoses exchanges i firmly believe this crazy girl kill that sweet child for her own selfishness!
Okay, so let’s pretend there is a kidnapper. Have they contacted the family for some type of ransom? Has there been any contact from this phantom kidnapper? Sadly, I think we all know little Caylee is gone.
Dear friend,
Is it possible that thius woman could have planned this for a pablicity stunt to get money by her new found fame. If so could the government stop her from making any profit on this tragedy. Do you think perhaps she is signaling the captors to release her daughter by telling her dad that sheell be home by her birthday. As bad as it all sounds, atleast if it was true than the litle girl is ok. She just appears to be acting like someone who has something up their sleeve. Anyway, God bless you and your beutiful family! mcm oregon
This case and the behavior of this family just baffles me. One thing I feel fairly certain of is that Casey Anthony is a chronic liar and her parents have been swallowing her BS for years. The one moment of *truth* I have heard was when the grandmother called 911 with panic in her voice to say that she smelled “a dead body” in the trunk. That panic sounded absolutely genuine to me. But I think this grandmother quickly stuffed that gut reaction deep into the back of her mind, probably as she has done with unpleasantness where her daughter is concerned many, many times. I don’t think that either grandparent or the brother hurt Caylee or aided in a cover up…I think that they are all in a whole lot of denial, though.
Since this girl seems to continuously tell lies, how was it proven that the “father” of the little girl died. Did they ever prove he was the father, other than her word?
Also, since the dogs smelled something in the shed as well as the car, would it not make sense that there was possibly something in the shed that was transferred to the car on the bottom of the gas can? She used a shovel at the house but then took gas cans from the house so wouldn’t it be possible that something happened there? It is terrible that NO ONE in the family seems to show the emotion that one would reveal at the loss of a child.
I think that Casey is a drug addict and she took Caylee out with her on a drug run. She left Caylee in the car to sleep while she got high, Casey was out of it for a couple of hours all toked up and when she finally came to she found her baby dead in the car. A child in the car for hours in the summer in Florida would kill the child. Casey pannicked because she knew it was her fault because she is drug addicted and should have taken better care of her child so she plotted with her druggie friends on how to hide the body. Thats when she asked to borrow the shovel from the neighbors and she came up with the stupid story about the baby sitter. Why wasn’t she still working at Disney? She probably was fired because she was too irresponsible to show up. Casey’s parents know that she is a liar and a druggie. They should just admit that their daughter has problems so that she can come clean and Caylee can rest in peace.
I wonder if Casie has dirt on the family. That they have no choice but to go along with her craziness because she could destroy the entire family.
They all seem so afraid of Casie. I’m starting to wonder why that is.
I don’t think Caylee has been missing all this time; rather, she’s been dead all this time! A body doesn’t begin to smell like decomposition as soon as death occurs, so it seems Caylee’s body was in the trunk while Casie was out partying it up.
Rest assurred, Casie has been planning her defense all along. Society doesn’t punish mothers as harshly as we do fathers. Instead, there’s always some kind of excuse for their actions. Casie has pushed as far as she can, and will likely use an “insanity” defense. And guess what — NO DEATH SENTENCE for a mother who murders her own child.
I hate to say it, but it’s true. If this girl (the baby, Caylee) turns out to be anything at all like her mom Casey or her grandmother Cindy … it would be a blessing in disguise if she were dead. Sad, but true. This family is a bunch of whack jobs, from top to bottom. The baby was born with 100 strikes against her … she had no chance. It would be a blessing to the child if she were dead and removed from that bunch of crack pots. How sick they all are, it seems.
Here is what i think, until yesterday casey said that caylee will be home for her b-day, now she told her mother that caylee is in life danger , why?????
Because she knows she is very close to be pin down and now when they find the body she is gona say ” i told you she was in danger ” she knows the baby is dead and she is playing games with the police so she can keep saying somebody else did , i belive this will be over soon , this kind of mother doesn’t deserve freedom
John in Connecticut..I understand what you’re saying,but Caylee was an innocent child that COULD have lead a productive life. Nobody deserves to die like this, (or what this seems to be.) I totally agree with Maria…Casey has known all along this baby is dead and is totally playing games. Someone should smack the shit out of her until she talks. Mom and Dad seem to be convinced their little b**chy daughter is on the up and up for some reason. Did you listen to the taped calls? Would YOU talk to your Mom like that? What a spoiled little immature 22 year old girl. It seems like she has been given everything in life, but appreciates none of it. Why is it that this supposed kidnapper hasn’t demanded ransom of some type? If they called to say they have her, then they want something. If someone kidnaps a kid and doesn’t want something, they don’t bother calling, they just take off.
Someone should shake the S**t out of Casey until she talks. Did it occur to anyone that most kidnappers wouldn’t bother making a call to say they have their kid, unless they want ransom of some type? If this kidnapper wants the child for their own gain, then it would make sense NOT to contact the parent, but simply run off.
Maria…I thought the exact same thing that you said regarding Casey’s sudden switch from the “Oh, she’s safe…she’s close” rhetoric to her current “She’s in danger” statements. This girl (Casey) is as slick as a ribbon, and I think she spends her days in jail trying to come up with ideas to stay one step ahead of the investigators. She’s certainly not using the time to do anything constuctive as far as helping to find her little girl. Now it seems that her brain is proccessing the fact that the investigators may find Caylee’s body and then Casey can say “Oh, THEY must have killed her”..blah, blah, blah…I had been hoping all along that this baby girl would be found alive…alas, now all I feel I can hope for is some evidence against this “mother” so she will have to answer for whatever in God’s name she’s done.
ur right about the nika, maybe she is a friend of the family and Casey has confined in her. She certainly did not defend her self when that comment was made. She also disspeared from the comments all of a sudden!!
Ok its realy getting all confusing now. Now that they found someone with the name of the babysitter that checked into those apartments it starts to make me wonder. But the mother is not saying enough so it makes her look like she killed her and the smell i the car makes it seem like she killed her too. I thought in the begining that the granma knew what was going on but now I dont know if she really knows. Why didnt casey report this erlier? That makes no sense. I think she needs to speek out more and if she killed her then she just needs to come clean and stop putting her family through all of this. And if the babysitter has her I wish she would come foward. I pray for this little girl every night and I hope everyone else will do the same! I hope they find her alive and safe!!
In my heart I think Caylee is dead but I am hoping not. Then I was thinking because she keeps saying she is alright and she will be home for her birthday. That just maybe she is still alive and this all started out as getting even with mom (grand mom) taking her away from grand mom. Insist that what they said in the begging. Maybe there is a Nanny (babysitter-Friend) that Casey asks her to take her out of the country or maybe a cruse and not to come back until her birthday. That’s why she was out parting. But when her mom had her arrested she made the story up that Caylee and the nanny is missing. And maybe the nanny doesn’t know about the massive search or doesn’t really knows what’s going on and they are due back on her birthday and Casey is doing this all because she plans on turning around suing everyone for false charge so she can make money to live on her own and not have to do what mom and dad say and can raise Caylee the way she wants with out grandma and granddad in the picture. Casey is just way to cool about this.
Trish…good theory, but Casey is not smart enough to come up with that on her own… she is a high school dropout! What a loser!!! I believe the theory that she left her daughter in a hot car and when she returned and found her daughter was dead she burried her somewhere. WHY is the whole country pouring out their sorrow for this little girl but her mother shows absolutely NO EMOTION!!!!!!!!!!!
Is Lee Anthony the biological son of Cindy and George? I have to admit that no one in this family looks alike. Cindy and Casey resemble each other but no one else looks like someone else in that family.
Caylee does look like Lee. I did a side by side of Lee and Caylee and they look so much alike. I wonder why he keeps his hair cut? With hair Caylee would be a dead ringer for Lee. Now this case is getting very scary.
Happy Birthday Caylee…. Where ever you are…
Trish, my friends and I have discussed that theory as well, and we believe it realy could be that. I know of people that are that irritated with their parents (my friend and I were young single mothers for years, with TOO much mommy help) I hope that that is the case but now with Caylee’s birthday here and no Caylee in sight I fear the worst. I too have a hard time thinking that someone could kill their own child, but it’s looking more like it every day.
If Casey disposed of Caylee because caring for her small child interferred with her personal and social life, then she’s probably REALLY mad at her now for putting her through all this legal grief. Hence…no emotion.
Ok, yes I think you all have plausible ideas; I agree… everyone seems guilty. I was wondering about something though, that seems crazy, but it fits. Casey has no money; no real home, etc. She is young, and not talking… at first we all thought maybe she sold her. What if Caylee is alright and this is all some big hoax so they could all sue the police department for wrongful arrests. Maybe that’s why she “knows who has her” and is not speaking. She also “believes she’s safe.” I mean how else could you think she was safe if you don’t know where she is at? She also seemed pretty confident that she’d be back before her birthday. Maybe her real dad took her so they could sue someone and Casey is going to say “See I was telling the truth the whole time.”
why oh why is casey so content in jail? Why does she not ask to get out or if bail is being reached? WHY ARE HER PARENTS NOT ATTEMPTING TO GET HER OUT? Most parents would be willing to put up their house to get a child out! Cindy even stated early on that they almost had enough $, now it’s not even memtioned. They know! Also, her dad (is he biological?) is an ex-cop. He’s no fool! The gps know that Casey is guilty and that there’s little chance of Caylee coming home.
I agree with Mom of 3, I went to the website too, and thought the same thing, plus, it looks like it took some time for the site to be made???Hmm…I can’t understand this whole thing. I’m only 22 and have 3 girls of my own which I love more than life itself, & one is 2, I look at her, and wonder how someone could hurt something so small and angelic, to hurt any child for that matter! I personally think the whole family is involved, like it’s some kind of publicity stunt or something.They are advertising like crazy it seems. Do they have someone hiding Caylee, waiting for the mother to be charged with murder, and then Caylee will show up alive, so the family thinks they will get rich from wrongful prosecution? All I can say is I hope and pray that little girl is alive and well.
This case has kept me awake nights. Unfortunately, there are so many unanswered questions here. Wonder if they’ve asked Casey if she would submit to a lie detector test though she may not bust it as I believe she is a sociopath. She was certainly narcissistic enough to be concerned about herself in jail over the finding of her darling daughter.
I think that either the little girl drowned while her Mom was on her phone and not attending to her since the ladder was back in position on the above ground pool and the grandparents definitely said it had been removed for safety and have no clue how it got back on the pool. My other theory is that the girl was partying with her friends and left the little girl in the car and she died from the extreme heat. I am not sure about these grandparents. If I didn’t hear from my granddaughters for a day or two I would definitely have been going to the authorities. Why in the world didn’t the g’parents go to the authorities when Casey went missing with Caylee. Certainly they knew their daughter was unstable. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. I so fear this beautiful little girl is dead.
One theory police have is that Caylee may have accidentally drowned. But why wouldn’t Casey immediately call 911 if she found her little girl in the pool? That’s the 1st thing I would do! Hiding her body makes it look like it was not an accident. So if Caylee did accidentally drown, Casey is so stupid to try and cover it up. I sang Happy Birthday to Caylee today. I am so sad for that little girl.
I think this story is messed up. I think Casey is involved in some other illegal activity which is why she does not want to say anything and will not cooperate with the police. OR she did something to Caylee and thats why she is quiet. I REALLY HOPE CAYLEE IS FINE-but if she’s really been gone a month and her own mom isn’t doing anything to help find her, it is looking hopeless(I HATE TO SAY). I Hope Caylee does make it back today for her birthday but I really hope Casey stays in jail and does not get Caylee back. Casey doesn’t deserve Caylee—obviously.
Cindy, be strong and know that little Caylee is O.K. I have been visiting here in Orlando for the summer and following your situation since day one. From a mom who has lost a child I can tell you it is life changing and you never get over it, just have to keep going. We have a good God he will not bring you to it without bringing you through it. Just know someday you will see her again. My prayers are with you and your husband. Take care of him, and your son.
I just want to say that I think the idea of incest is completely ridiculous … just because the child has the same middle and last name as her mother. I have a friend whose middle name is the same as her own mother, and some women choose not to give their children the fathers last name especially if the father will not be around, as it seems he wasnt because the report is that he didnt know he was a father. I do however agree that Casey knows, as well as her mother, what happened to Caylee. The reaction the grandmother had when she called was her intial reaction, thats the frantic truth. The smell of a decomposing body is easy to distinguish even if you havent smelled a human, you have smelled dead animals, its pretty much the same. If she had that thought, there is no reason the authorities shouldnt. I think the family knows more than they are saying, and Casey is buying more time, the longer it takes to find that baby the harder it will be to have a cause of death, and the remains may no longer be useable, they might not beable to confirm who they belong to. She is a sick woman and I hope she gets what is coming to her. There is no way I would let my children be missing for more than an hour without calling 911l et alone a month, that is outrageous!
First of all Whoa first lady who left a comment “Nika” thats some imagination you got there. Ever think just maybe Cassie is A BIG FAT LIAR!!! I’m sure she is saying nothing because her attorney told her if she wanted even the tiniest chance of saving herself thats what she should do. I don’t care how or why she killed her I think unfortunatly thats what will come to pass. She did it, the one thing that is unmistakeable for me is the dogs. I myself work for the Michigan K-9 Cadaver Search and rescue squad in washtenaw county and have for the last 15 years. These dogs do not hit on pizza or dead animals nothing short of a human dead body in the back of her car and in the yard of the grandparents would make these dogs alert!!!! Thats it so she must of had or someone had at one time a dead body in those places thats it!! Case closed these dogs only alert on dead human remains. So how do you explain that away????
Has anyone thought about Munchausen By Proxy??? Even though most times it is related to a child being brought for medical treatment so that the mother can gain sympathy or attention … couldn’t it just as easily be related to a “missing” child? If it was Munchausen, then Casey is getting what she craved … attention. Here is a definition of Munchausen:
In MBPS, an individual — usually a mother — deliberately makes another person (most often his or her own preschool child) sick or convinces others that the person is sick. The parent or caregiver misleads others into thinking that the child has medical problems by lying and reporting fictitious episodes. He or she may exaggerate, fabricate, or induce symptoms. As a result, doctors usually order tests, try different types of medications, and may even hospitalize the child or perform surgery to determine the cause.
Typically, the perpetrator feels satisfied by gaining the attention and sympathy of doctors, nurses, and others who come into contact with him or her and the child. Some experts believe that it isn’t just the attention that’s gained from the “illness” of the child that drives this behavior, but also the satisfaction in being able to deceive individuals that they consider to be more important and powerful than themselves.
Okay.. here’s a question I haven’t seen a single person ask. I’ve been following this case from day one and EVERYONE says that Casey spoke of the babysitter for a year or more before Caylee disapered. Did anyone ever see Casey leave with Caylee to the “babysitter” then come back, alone, and then go pick her up later and she was fine? Don’t you think this would have happened several times?
My last theory….
1. Accidental death by drowning on June 16th.
2. Flury of phone calls from Casie to parents on June 16th. This is stated by police.
3. Body laid in the back yard for a few days while Casie developed her scheme. Cadaver dogs hit on dead body in back yard. I would imagine it takes a day or two for a dog to pick up on that scent.
4. Parents come home from vacation and Casie takes off with the car and poor little Caylee inside the trunk. Wrapped up of course.
5. After 30 days the grandma starts asking about Caylee and her car.
6. Casie goes on a “bonding” trip to dump the body.
7. Tries to come up with some kind of car jacking story but that didn’t work because they impounded the car before she could do it.
8. No one was going to believe a car jacking story anyways. Its been tried and failed before.
9. This crazy biach didn’t kill her daugher on purpose it was probably an accident. However, now she deserves life in prison without parole.
ALSO, for the 30 days that Casie was “missing” I find it hard to believe that no one seen her and Caylee together or asked about it for 30 days. I think the boyfriend knows more than he is letting on also. He was hitting that routinely I would imagine. Stands to reason, Caylee would have been around more often than he is letting on.
In most crime scenarios we hear about, there’s more than one person who is aware of what happened. People talk..and in that manner, they are not acting alone. I think we would all love to see Caylee alive and well and have thought of every scenario that would produce this. We can’t relate to a mother who would party night after night with all smiles while her child is missing because it’s not in our realm of thought. “My child’s alive, but being held for ransom by drug dealers….think I’ll party it up tonight and tomorrow night. Think I’ll go out and buy some new clothes too on mommy’s stolen credit card”. Or…”she’s close by and safe, but I’m not going to help you find her because she could be harmed and I’m a really good mom and I will protect her with my silence….but please do not begrudge my partying bumping and grinding time”. And then there’s the babysitter story, “The babysitter has disappeared and won’t give my child back…and I can’t find her anywhere….but I don’t think she’ll hurt her….guess I’ll go out and party it up night after night”. “Oh but first, before I can do all this…..can I borrow your shovel?” More than any of the theories I have read so far, I believe the cadaver dogs have hit upon the truth. I really can’t predict what the brother or grandparents know or don’t know. Or who fathered who…..there’s too much weirdness in the world, anything could be possible. BUT, I do believe Casey has confided in someone or had help.
Sam- Where the grandparents on vacation during this mess? I didn’t hear that. Also, wonder if she had any proof that she has paid a babysitter in the past… its tax deductable, most people keep proof like a check or reciept.
Some bloggers have said that they feel this was an accident of some type. I have to disagree. Usually when someone has an accident, they react with horror, fear, etc. In Casey’s case, her reactions are too cool. If there was an accident, I can’t see how anyone could go about their business as usual; going out, etc. She wants to come across as if nothing out of the ordinary happened, and this is what she feels will pull her through and MAKE it look like something out of her control happened. No, I can’t believe there is any accident here. I have to think she had a plan and that is why she is acting like she is now. Isn’t it a coinicidence that her parents went on vacation about the same time? She put this plan together in her simple little head because she is NOT the mother others are trying to portray as loving, etc. She is selfish and immature, and I think her actions are proving this.
It amazes me how stupid you all sound!!!!!!!!!!!
I doubt anyone would say that except a member of her family
And just what is your theory, J? I suppose you think the babysitter still has her!
There are so many possibilities it’s hard to speculate what has really happened to Caylee. Most likely if she is dead it was probally accidental but Casey was probally up to no good at the time and has tried to cover it up. Honestly, the simplest explanation is usually the truth. Everyone needs to lay off of the grandparents. This whole situation must be quite overwhelming for them to go through and my heart aches for them. Their reactions are natural reactions. And of course noone would want to think of that their child killed their grandchild. They have been very coopertive with the police and have Caylee’s best interest at heart. Again, it’s easy to speculate what happened but this the U.S. and according to our law you are innocent to proven guilty, not the other way around.
I think Casey hurt her baby & the grandma is eating up all the media attention, which is such a shame! why can’t Casey & her mother stop waisting every-one’s time and let the police know where they put little Caylee. Also why does the media have to focus so much on the people that did the crime, if they want to talk about someone TALK ABOUT CAYLEE! who cares a bout those nuts!
This is all about individual opinions and thoughts. We should all be able to comment or speculate and not be insulted for it. The exception here is comment #144
george anthony per greta says he saw the gas cans the same day they were reported stolen. Am I reading this wrong?
Family dynamics don’t change in a month’s time. It’s obvious that Casey is very manipulative and is running her family around in circles. She is probably a master at it by now. They want to believe the best (like anyone would) and Casey is manipulating that hope and optimism to her advantage. This family needs to stay strong and press Casey for answers!! They need to realize:
If Caylee is with someone and there are threats against her safety…not telling anyone will not make that better! She’s obviously with a dangerous person. Why would you stay tight lipped about that situation? Either Caylee is in danger or she isn’t!
Also, why not get the whole family into protective custody and f’ing spill the beans! Then the family is safe from “threats” and the police get the info to save Caylee.
I am the mother of 5 children when i was 21 i was single and my mother helped me raise her. I understand wanting to party but when you make a choice to have a baby you make the choice to change your life. I believe casey wanted her cake and ate it to. Casey has got to be bi polar and schizophratic im not a doctor but this is not a well girl and i think her mother is in denial that her daughter is not well. If her family stops accepting her calls and walk away from her i bet they will get further in the investigation order her to ta take a lie detector test and the family. I would be out of my mind if my child were missing
Have you noticed that Casey has not said anything about being jail, how terrible it is and how she shouldn’t be there because she is innocent? Nothing about missing her daughter or starting a search. Everyone that knows her says she is such a great mother, really how is that? Why did Casey’s parents decide to go on a month long vacation? Did they really think that she could go out on her own?
Or did they kick her out of the house? After spending every day with their granddaughter, why all of a sudden is okay not to see her for a few weeks and then get concerned? Yes a lot of questions?! She had no money and no job how was she going to go on a vacation for a month?
I don’t think the GF is guilty of anything but being a puss.
casey initially claimed while in jail that she had no idea where her daughter was. recently she’s made statements that caylee “is close” & that she’s in danger. now, all of her calls and visits are closely monitored, so how is she getting this info? either she’s pulling it out of her @$$ or it’s being beamed to her from outer space! if she had no idea where caylee was when she 1st went to jail and couldn’t have aquired any new info thereafter (unless via her attorney & that’s just too crazy), she is obviously still yarnspinning to watch the cops and her family jump at her bidding.
as for lee and the grandparents soliciting free personal assistants and gift cards, that goes beyond the pale. personal tragedy does not confer celebrity status, and the clock is winding down on this family’s 15 minutes.
This is a horrible tragedy. The mother (Casey) is oblivious to reality and truth. She has not only established she is a liar beyond a resonable doubt she has also proven to be a theif.
I want to believe that this is going to have a “happy ever after” fairy tale ending however, I do believe cadaver dogs are smart, responsive and are unlikely to make a mistake twice. So, with just that information I am sure though it isn’t what I would wish, that the baby is not living.
However, the only half truths that Casey is telling are the emotionless emotional words such as I feel she is safe, she is close by, ask mom it is just something a mother knows. All this BS she is feeding her family is sad. Because realistically speaking, a person that wants to try to play in innocent role or the “mentally ill” role knowingly, will say all of those comments were true because my beautiful daughter was always close to home and her family in heart and in spirit. Close and in a “better place” safe from the world. Dead. So sickening.
Not one story she has told seems to have any merit. The family is one of two things IMO>
Trying to protect her because they are in denial and want to believe so badly as anyone would that their neice, grandchild is alive and their child would never do something so heinous. (most humans would rather take this stance against a loved one, I am sure)
The grandmother knows more but doesn’t want to tell just in case Casey is telling the truth about her maybe being in danger even though Casey told Cindy something different. Again, making grandma hold on to hope and want to protect her children because peices don’t fit.
Unfortunately, the having no money thing that I have read must be BS. Who has a lot these days? They have vehciles, a home, and cell phones. Obviously credit cards. I don’t care if the they are trying to profit. I think they are not but are trying to think of anyone and anything willing to help them out. Wal mart and Target and grocery cards would likely be used for sancks and water to help feed/hydrate their posse looking for their daughter in likely, all the wrong places.
I think the gpa should have divorced the gma years ago. I read something but don’t know if it holds water. However, Cindy and Casey all seem to be nontrustworthy, easily influenced and not able to stand on their own two feet.
NOW>…..if Caylee should make it home then I believe she should be taken away from her family that could not protect her.
ALSO….I believe that Casey should be given the right to tell now what she knows because if she is not found or remains are she will be charged. If there really is another connection and she wants her freedom at all ever in her lifetime surly, she would conform. She won’t because she did it.
Makes me want to vomit. I am a mother of three and couldn’t imagine leavng my child with someone else. I prefer less money and struggle to know my children are taken care of by me rather than more money. So, my husband works and I don’t. Difficult but worht every single second of hardship because my kids and family mean the world to me.
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the person who said she left the car at the check casing place with the keys and purse in it, hoping it would get stolen, was probably correct. she was counting on this for her story, but it didnt work. and i dont think the grandpa was in on it and trying to help casey otherwise he would not have told the story of her taking the gas cans, and her not wanting him to look in the trunk….right????
…and if the fam says the last time they saw casey and caylee was when they were leaving the house at 12:50 in the noontime, was this the beginning of her one month trip? so if she left then, were the grandparents around the house all the time for the next month, or did they go on vacation after fathers day?
When was this concrete slab put down?
I agree with Niki 100%. I told my husband the other day that Caylee was a victim of incest and Cassie is afraid to tell. I hope and pray she has put Caylee is a safe place to keep her away from the grandfather.
No one will believe her if she tells that this has been going on with her all her life and now with Caylee. She is afraid the family will get custoday of Caylee and the incest will continue.
I’m still focused on the Zanaida thing.
1. CASEY says she dropped the little girl off with Zanaida on June 9th. Lie
2. CASEY says she has used Zanaida for 18 months. Lie
3. CINDY first says she last saw Caylee on June 8th or 9th. That was a lie because of the video evidence proves the 15th. Yet Cindy can’t remember the last time she ACTUALLY saw her grandchild. It takes a video to refresh her memory?
4. CINDY states she has heard the name “Zanaida” over a year ago. If you think Casey is lying about knowing Zanaida then CINDY is obviously lying about hearing that name.
5. BOTH tried to establish two things. One, June 9th as the last time they BOTH saw Caylee. Two, this “Zanaida” person really existed.
6. However, the real Zanaida doesn’t walk into the picture until June 17th.
7. I find it INCREDIBLE that the real Zanaida actually went to the apartment that Casey said she dropped Caylee off at. That’s a gazillion billion hexidecimal big arse number to ONE of that happening around the EXACT same time this little girl came up missing.
8. I think Cindy and Casey tried to set this poor woman up by stealing her name from somewhere.
9. Unfortunately for them and fortunate for Caylee, the cops found the real Zanaida.
10. During the 911 call, Casey spells this woman’s name like she’s been spelling it for years. She even includes the HYPHEN between Gonzales and Fernandez. Who the heck does that? A person coached would do that for sure.
I think, I believe, I guess, I pray, I feel, I´m sure, and many more “I-I-I´s”…!!!
Can´t you simply step back, let authorties do their job and stop all this horrible second guessing?
Can´t you simply keep mouth shut for a moment? Can´t you see and feel the tragic of the moment? Must it always be I, I and I…?
Who the hell is really interested what you-you-you think, believe and feel?
I do not find much REAL (!) empathy here!
J.B.
a JueBu/Anthony relative in case the idea of this forum escapes you, it’s a place of PUBLIC opinion! I don’t see how the interest/observations and armchair detective work is in any way hindering REAL police work. Get a clue since you have far less than the virtual detectives here.
this has nothing do do with empathy, this one is in a seperate category: there is a very patriotic photo of casey on hub.com………
….whoops, hubpages.com……..mother of the year…………….
You are a bunch of virtual KKK´s people – that´s what you are!
How can you dare to call the grandfather a rapist, GM Cindy a liar and shed the bad smell of incest over the whole family…?
Without knowing anything and have even the most simple fact wrong (in most cases)
Indeed, you are nothing but a bunch of virtual couch-potatoe Clansmen (and woman!!).
And they, we (not you!) know, belong to the class of classical American White Trash, underdogs being quick pointing with their stinking finger on anybody who comes across their crude ideas of justice.
Shame on you!
No matter how this story ends, you are as guilty as those being involved here. You kill with your bad breath of false accusations.
White Trash – keep mouth shut!
J.B.
I think Casey went to the Sawgrass apartments looking for an alibi, or a scapegoat. I bet she saw a sign-in sheet of names next to apartments people were looking at and mistakenly thought it was names of residents. Remember she took the cops to that apt. Claimed the Nanny, “Zanada” lived there. The apartment was empty and had been empty, but come to find out, A Zanada woman had actually signed-in to see that apartment. Had this poor woman (fake Nanny) actually lived there, I think Casey would have sworn it was she that had her daughter. Notice, Casey goes to a poorer part of town than she lives in, with many imigrants, easy people to cast doubt on, to find her victim, just like Susan Smith did in Union County, South Carolina. She claimed a black man hijacked her car and took her boys. At the time, a man in Union was interviewed and he said, since when do black men steal babies? We don’t have a shortage of babies.” Well, I don’t think Spanish-Americans need white babies either. They have plenty of beautiful babies of their own. This also reminds me of Trenton Duckett story. So it seems if ever we find out anything from Casey, we had better keep her in jail so she can’t take the easy way out. Of course, then Cindy and her husband would then sue Orange county for driving their daughter to suicide. I believe Trenton Duckett’s mother’s family is suing Nancy Grace and others because of her suicide.
Way too many inconsistencies. I want to give her the benefit of the doubt; but Casey makes it way to difficult. Could Casey maybe blanked everything out of her mind, and can’t actually remember what happened?? She makes me want to slap that grin right off her face. I agree with being coached with the Nanny name. Even if you knew someone all your life, and given these same circumstances you’d probably not remember how to spell anyone’s name, including your own. Time will tell…
Something was said about a cement slab being laid in the grandparents back yard after Caylee was missing. If the dogs hit at the grandparents house couldnt the slab be a big “hit”. The timeline states that the neighbors had seen Casey back the car into the driveway, which was very unusual, the same day that she borrowed the shovel. Hmmm…
GEORGE ANTHONY: And I said, Really? She says, yes. I said, Interesting. And I just said, Hey, by the way, I said, I’m getting ready to rotate your mom’s tires on her car. There’s a little metal wedge that fits underneath your tires so your car doesn’t rock back and forth. And I said, Well, I’d like to have it, so in case you’re not here over the weekend, I’d like to be able to do it.
She was hesitant about letting me get in the car. And I said, Well, listen, I got an extra key. I’ll just go get it. Well, she was adamant about — about that.
VAN SUSTEREN: What, not letting you into the car?
GEORGE ANTHONY: Yes, didn’t want me to get into the car to get the stuff out. Dad, I’ll get it for you. Dad, I’ll get it out. I said, It’s no problem. I know where it’s at. I’ll get it, get it out and be done with it.
So as we’re walking out through the garage, she’s still telling me, Dad, I’ll get it. Give me a minute, I’ll get it. I said, Casey, I’m capable of reaching inside your car, and I got it. So — and she opened up the trunk of the car…
CINDY ANTHONY: The gas cans were there.
GEORGE ANTHONY: (INAUDIBLE) The gas cans there. She’s the one that took the gas cans.
I think George saw the body or smelled the decomposition on the 24th. I think Casey went inside the house to get clothes and George popped the trunk looking for the wedge. I think George is a father trying to protect his daughter. The little girl was dead and nothing he could do was going to bring her back. I think George decided to save his daughter because he couldn’t save his grand child at that point.
The gas can thing is a fake story and the break in is a fake story. George is trying to establish that no body or decomp was in the trunk on the 24th.
I think Cindy jumped in because George may get emotional when thinking about what he saw or smelled when he popped that trunk looking for that wedge. It would look rather silly if George got all choked up on live TV at finding gas cans in the trunk wouldn’t it?
Lastly, I think the Anthony’s have spies and sympathizers who patrol these sites trying to take the focus off them and put it on someone else. I hope that everyone keeps the focus squarely placed on them.
I have always wondered if maybe Casey sent Caylee underground to keep her mom from getting custody of her. The gm didn’t approve of the way she was raising her and threatned to file for custody. Then Casey asked for a month to “bond” with her little one as one last chance to prove she could be a good mom, and then sent her off with someone to be hidden from the gm. The only “shadow” to my theory is the cadaver dogs. In one comment that makes me think this is a comment from gm “if anything happenes to “my” baby, I will just die.
J.B.
Here are the FACTS as I know them. Please feel free to add your own facts.
FACT…Casey told her parents and the investigators that she dropped Caylee off at an apartment complex where the babysitter, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez (Zanie) lived, and it was the last time she saw Caylee.
FACT…Investigators found the apartment and discovered it had been vacant for almost five months. The apartment manager told police the named babysitter Gonzalez had never lived in the complex.
FACT…Casey sent investigators to another apartment complex which turned out to be a senior citizens facility.
FACT…Casey then suggested police try another complex where Zenaida’s mother supposedly lived, but no one they questioned at the complex could identify Zenaida or her mother as residents of the complex.
FACT…Casey told investigators that she and Zenaida had been working at Universal Studios and that she had been leaving the baby with friends and Zenaida.
FACT…She provided the name of her boss and a phone number with an extension. Investigators learned that Anthony had not worked at the park since April 2006, and the number and name of her supervisor were false.
FACT…Casey told her parents that she was living with friends and Caylee was staying with her friends and Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. Investigators reported Casey told two friends that Caylee was with her nanny, visiting theme parks and the beach.
FACT…Investigators reported that friends of Casey described her as “a habitual liar” and that she stole checks from one person they spoke to and $700 from another acquaintance.
FACT…When questioned about Caylee’s father, Anthony told investigators that he is dead. Investigators have not been able to confirm her statement.
i think the persons comment that the grandfather is involved and the grandmother is truely devious and sick, those people have enough grief to deal with without someone saying ugly things like that, the childs mother is the culprit here, but just like 95% of all americans, you are just the same, put the blame on someone else, always the blame goes to the parents, people are responsible for their own actions, stop the blame…
Casey either killed her, or knows who did. Caylee is no longer alive.
All this speculation is just that- speculation. Nobody- and I mean NOBODY looks perfect under the microscope. Caylee’s grandparents should have the support that any of you would want if a loved one is missing. This forum is filled with vultures- how many of you have children that look like anyone in your family? Would you appreciate it if people were saying that you were involved in something incestuous? It’s just insane. These are real people- not characters in an episode of CSI, and none of you seem to comprehend that sitting around imagining all of these grisly scenarios is a waste of time. Do something constructive and print out some fliers- even if you only believe .001% that she’s alive- doesn’t she deserve even a fraction of the effort you are putting in here- to do that for her?
I’m sorry 176, but most of us DON’T believe that Caylee is alive. There is nothing that points to anything that would suggest so. While I agree that there are some wild stories here, I have to also believe that Casey harmed her child. Everything points to that theory.
I’m sorry 176, but there aren’t too many of us that DO believe that Caylee is alive. As far as the wild stories go, I agree, but I also agree that Casey did something to harm her child and she is no longer with us.
Sadly, not many of us believe that Caylee is alive and that is why there are so many stories here. There is no proof to suggest otherwise.
Perhaps the police should call the mother and her attorney to a meeting to announce they believe they have found Caylee alive and well. They can gauge the mother’s reaction, and know then what type of search they should be conducting.
As a mother of 4, I would be hysterical. I would be offering any kind of lead or clue I could think of. I would volunteer for hypnosis to find things I may not remember. My family would be right by my side every step. She either had responsibility in Caylee’s death, or she knows exactly who did. Maybe she IS waiting for the corpse to deteriorate before she admits the truth. I fear we will never find out what really happened. Like the Duckett case, if they let her out on bond, she may harm herself, and where would that lead the case?
178 and 179…I know that it seems like most people believe that Caylee is deceased, and I’m not implying that they (and you) are not entitled to that opinion. All I am trying to say is…look into your children’s eyes- your grand- children’s eyes…do that right now. Then look up and before you type something on here- think about how you would feel if your neighbors, and what seems to be like the entire nation now- were speculating about them if they were missing. Wouldn’t it break your heart to think that thousands of people “believed” or “felt” that they were dead, and because of that- weren’t posting pictures everywhere they could- weren’t craning their necks around while driving to take a second look at every child they saw? What would it hurt for everybody to fear for the worst- but hope for the best? Hope is one of the most important things we can have as human beings- and I think that all of us need to remember that all it takes sometimes is one person to make all the difference in the world.
Schatz..I understand your take on this, but I am merely stating what I believe to be the cruel reality of this case. Hope IS a wonderful thing, but in Caylee’s case, there isn’t much to go on, so it seems obvious to only see the grim possibility that she is gone. Of course, I would love to see that she isn’t, and I would love to be wrong. Sadly, there are just too many inconsistent factors that point in the wrong direction. As a Grandmother, I would certainly be hoping for the best, but I would also have to prepare myself otherwise, due to the mixed up stream of stories Casey is trying to pass off.
Does anyone know if the death penalty still exists in FL or did Jeb Bush put a moratorium on it a few years back? Can’t remember, but I thought I had heard that before and wasn’t sure if it had ever been lifted since. Anyone else here believe if it doesn’t exist in FL that for this case it should? Casey is a sad excuse for a mother, I don’t care WHAT fantasy world she thinks she’s living in. As a mother of 3 small children myself (including one of my twins who looks very similar to Caylee in that one picture), the Great Wall of China and 200 machine guns couldn’t prevent me from doing everything in my power to help authorities and try to find my missing child! What’s WRONG with this woman??!?!? I mean, aside of the obvious, which is she most definitely resembles a female version of Scott Peterson. My heart just breaks even thinking about what Caylee potentially might’ve gone through if her mother had anything to do with it and I firmly believe sadly that’s the case.
Sugarandspice- I’m not saying that I don’t agree with you. There is a very real, and good possibility that this beautiful innocent is no longer with us. I just found this forum while searching for information- and it hurt my heart to see so many people coming up with such twisted, hurtful scenarios. Sometimes I want to believe that the US is a nation that bands together- that the post 9-11 feelings I saw in a lot of people still had a place in people’s hearts and minds. I want this world to be a place where it is still easy to find good. I don’t want to come off sounding naive – I just thought I’d take a chance to maybe reach one person on here- just get someone to think about the Anthony family as human beings- full of flaws and mistakes. The internet can be a small world too- and I hope that anyone that knows Caylee or her family doesn’t run across some of the things people are saying. I’m sure they feel alone enough already- it would be nice for them to see that people have them in their thoughts at a time like this. And if, in fact little Caylee is gone forever- her grandparent’s will need even more support. *Practice random acts of kindness*
I’ve been thinking a lot about the Zanaida Gonzalez babysitter angle and was wondering if authorities ever maybe considered that there might truly be a babysitter out there that did in fact watch Caylee at times, but that maybe was an illegal alien and so therefore wouldn’t have actually have given her REAL name to anyone, including the apartment complex and Casey? Maybe Zanaida Gonzalez is in fact an alias used for someone who doesn’t want anyone to know their true identity for whatever reasons? If she were an illegal alien, I’ve heard they NEVER use their real names for anything! Anyone else want to comment on this possibility? My gut feeling is that Casey did something bad, but I’m still desperately praying I’m wrong.
Yes, Schatz…I also wish the best for the entire Anthony family. I feel terrible when I see the Grandparents on TV and can’t imagine their pain. I do not in any way believe they are connected with anything that may have gone wrong. Some people here seem to think they are aware of the truth or somehow covering something up. I don’t. I feel they are victims as well. What I see is a spoiled 22 year old Mother, whose parents have given her everything out of love. Unfortunately, the young mother has taken advantage of their generosity instead of appreciating it. The Grandparents obviously love this child and have given her a good life. It must be horrible for them to go to bed at night wondering where she is. I feel they would turn their daughter in if it meant cracking the case. Let’s hope something breaks soon. What happened to “Caylee will be home by her birthday?” This is what I thought Casey said. How would she know that anyhow?
Polo23,
If Zenaida were real and babysat little Caylee for years then why would she be in danger? Casey said that Caylee is in danger and she needs to get out to find her.
That really makes no sense to me. When everything else fails whatever else that’s left has to be the truth.
Caylee has been plastered on national TV. So even if the baby sitter thing is true what’s the harm in telling the police everything now. Its not like this babysitter still thinks no one knows. So why doesn’t Casey just tell the cops everything.
I promised myself not to return to this place of national shame…
Just look at (KK)Klanswoman “polo23″. In post 183 she asks or the death penalty, minutes later (post 185) she comes up with a new, completely reversed scenario.
If it weren´t for you, “Schatz” (posts 176, 181 + 184), I gave up hope that USA is indeed a civilized, open-minded and democratical society.
Low-level-blogs – this one is the classical example – provide good insight into the shameless brains and stone-cold hearts of American “trailor-trash”. They are the ones, I believe, being represented here. Shining souls like “Schatz” are just the exceptions to confirm the rule.
It´s getting cold in Florida!
J.B.
163+167
Sam:
Good points and well taken. I didn’t say I actually “believed” the babysitter thing, especially recently since they have more or less covered the Zanaida thing, but I’ve been trying to think way outside the box on this one just in case, because one truly never knows. Only God really knows. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
J.B:
I am far from a Klansman … I also don’t live anywhere near Florida. If it’s so nationally shameful here, then why DID you come back? You’re not unlike everyone else here … you just can’t stay away, admit it.
Schatz… I understand your feelings of people putting down the grandparents of Caylee. I have mixed feelings towards them. Part of me realizes that it must be so hard for them to comprehend what their daughter may or may have not done. Instead of being able to clearly see between black and white, they are stuck in a very gray area, and at this point there’s no way to know which way to turn. 1- they want to believe their daughter. They don’t want to believe that she could put their precious granddaughter in danger or worse. Also, a parent often feels that if their child goes down the wrong path, stealing, lying, killing, etc, they messed up somewhere-they weren’t good parents, they didn’t do the best they could. So of course they don’t want to admit their daughter may have done something. They are in a state of denial, whether it be true or false. 2- Maybe she has done nothing wrong. At this point that is very hard to believe, seeing as she has been anything but cooperative through this whole case. I do know that my family is very close-knit, which I am sure is the case for this family, and it would be hard to go against a family member. It would be hard to believe they could be guilty of such a heartless crime. But at the same time, if it was an innocent life in danger, I would do everything in my will to find the truth. Even though this does look hopeless, I believe all we can do at this point is pray. Pray for Casey to feel such conviction that she finally speaks THE TRUTH about what has happened to Caylee. Pray that Caylee is somehow safe and can be found. But if the worst fear is true and she is no longer alive, pray that the family can find peace and understand that Caylee is in a better place. And pray that if Casey is guilty and Caylee is no longer alive, that she suffers severely for life. I don’t agree with the death penalty, because in my opinion that is getting off easy. I believe in life without parole- that way the person can rot in hell on earth and remember daily what they did.
And also, to add on to the USA being civilized etc, that’s gone out the window when you have people (not pointing fingers at Casey since we do not know the truth yet) killing their children for selfish reasons, racism, brothers killing brothers, children killing parents, etc. This is far from civilized or a loving country. And as sad as it is true, the 9/11 patriotism seems to have deteriorated as quickly as it came.
Against the odds…but what if??
What if Caylee finds her way home? What happens then? She can’t be granted back to Casey….Poor little innocent baby.
Ok, after this last post I am done here. I had hoped that more people would have the warmth and depth I know is out there. Sugarandspice is a good example of someone that is expressing an opinion- without being disrespectful or crass. Kudos to S&S! I too, didn’t think I’d be back to post more- but on the off chance that some positive energy had rubbed off on the forum, I took a break to check. It’s always interesting to me that being open-minded in a forum like this ends up equaling: “I’m open-minded, I am not concentrating only on the prospect of little Caylee being drowned by her mother- I can fully accept the possibility that she could have been burned by her grandfather”. I’d also like to defend J.B. he/she is most definitely NOT like everyone else on this forum, he/she has expressed an opinion that is not openly shared by the group- and is thusly- rebuked by it. There is a big difference between someone that stops and looks around at the scene of an accident to see if they can be of assistance- and someone that stops and rubbernecks just to catch a glimpse of the carnage.
-And for the record, I don’t live in the USA.
You’re right, sadly there is no happily ever after. But, even though I’m not a mind reader, actions do speak loudly and the way it appears, I’m not sure Casey would want Caylee back. There’s the chance that if she’s innocent, she is in such a state of shock that she doesn’t know how to feel emotions but that’s doubtful. So if Caylee is found safe, where would she go? Could she go w/ grandparents? Hard to say because then what would happen w/ Casey? She won’t be allowed around her. Like I said, there’s no true happily ever after ending in this case- at least none that I can see.
And to Beth- thank you for posting on my way out the door. Your decent, intelligent paragraph is the last I read- as I was checking to see if my post had gone through. There are enough of us with hearts, and truly open minds- we just need to wander around giving people a nudge now and again
Aside from all the negative comments about the Anothony family, may the world see that a little is missing and extend a bit a empathy for Caylee. Whether her mother or someone else has harmed this child, Caylee needs to be found and found soon. Caylee, you are in my thoughts and my prayers everyday. May you be found safely by the grace of God! As a mother of a 3-year-old and an 8-year-old, I can only imagine the fear you have experienced and hope you are safe and brought to a family that will keep you safe from now on (if you are still alive). For the Anthony family, please let the world close this horrible book, tell everything you know, even if it means losing your freedom, if not for the world who has connected so deeply with this child, do it for Caylee. She deserves it!
Schatz..I’m hoping you don’t leave! I understand how frustrating it is to express yourself and feel alone. I appreciate your understanding of my opinion as well. I have nothing but well wishes for this family, but also have to say that I feel there is something very wrong that has happened. None of us have the answers, but some of us are expressing possibilities. It is quite difficult to write in the tone you are speaking, so maybe the words come out harsher than the tone. Sadly, this is not a positive situation, but we can all wish for the best. Did anyone hear how Casey thought Caylee was going to return by her Birthday? This puzzles me and I would like to know if someone has anything to say about it. Did the babysitter/kidnapper contact her? Where did this come from?
Once again, don’t leave the blogs!
S&S
Any idea on when the DNA results are coming back? Like I said before I want to give her the benefit of the doubt, but now Casey is refusing visitors???? And what happened to Caylee returning home by her birthday?? Way to many inconsistencies.
Just for the sake of arguement.
1. Caylee is alive and Casey dropped her off just like she said. She dropped her off so she could go to WORK. So between dropping her off and picking her up this baby sitter took off.
2. If the above is TRUE then someone was in the apartment ILLEGALLY. Someone by the name of Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales was living there the whole time without the apartment manager knowing it.
3. If the above is TRUE then she must had furniture in the apartment correct? I mean..Casey has used her for 18 months or so. Who drops there kid off at an apartment with no furniture in it? Probably no electricity or cable either. Because they would have to be there illegally and without the apartments permission. By Cindy’s own admission Casey should be given “mother of the year” honors when this is all over. Any good parent wouldn’t leave their kid with someone with no furniture, dishes, cleaning supplies, toilet paper, FOOD. Especially a mother of the year candidate. So this “sqatter” had furniture and other ESSENTIALS in the apartment because this mother of the year would never leave her kid in that situation.
4. If the above is TRUE then this person moved all their STUFF out between the time Casey dropped off Caylee and law enforcement officials showing up. This is possible because 30 days went by before Casey decided to report it. Even then it wasn’t Casey who reported it…it was her mother.
5. If the above is TRUE then the baby sitter must have moved at a time when no one saw her move. No one saw a moving van. No one saw people moving furniture. They even moved after this worried frantic mother tried to pick up her kid. This grief striken mother would have only tried to pick the kid up ONCE. This would explain how they were able to move out without being detected. I mean…I would be banging on that door every 5 seconds trying to get my kid. I would not have left the apartment UNTIL I got my kid.
6. If the above is TRUE then Casey is telling the truth.
I guess anything is possible right?
What grounds was george divorcing Cindy?
So many secrets in this family. Casey & Lees dialogue very strange. my 2 boys would not be so generous with my daughter’s son was missing! No money? A retired patrolman ears a good pension w/health benefits, etc. They also help each other out….why hasn’t george called in some help? Cindy rules this roost and something smells between Lee and Casey, and Cindy knows what it is….reason for a divorce? If cindy cared so much for caylee, why didn’t she check out the babysitter? G is an ex=cop for crying out loud, he knows how to do it, or just go online and do it. In this day and age you cannot be too careful. I would think Cindy would at least want to know where the woman lived and meet her. A whole lot of bulls,,t going on. Yes, there is still the death penalty in fla.
What grounds was george divorcing Cindy?
So many secrets in this family. Casey & Lees dialogue very strange. my 2 boys would not be so generous with my daughter’s son was missing! No money? A retired patrolman ears a good pension w/health benefits, etc. They also help each other out….why hasn’t george called in some help? Cindy rules this roost and something smells between Lee and Casey, and Cindy knows what it is….reason for a divorce? If cindy cared so much for caylee, why didn’t she check out the babysitter? G is an ex=cop for crying out loud, he knows how to do it, or just go online and do it. In this day and age you cannot be too careful. I would think Cindy would at least want to know where the woman lived and meet her. A whole lot of bulls,,t going on. Yes, there is still the death penalty in fla.
Sam..many good points. There are just too many ridiculous stories that add up to nothing positive. I don’t believe there is any babysitter or kidnapper. What is the motive? Money? If so, why did they “bother” to call and not ask for anything? A kidnapper doesn’t call and say they have your kid if they don’t want something. It’s not the way it works…If they just wanted to kidnap Caylee, there wouldn’t have been a call.
This turns my stomach even thinking about it, but since we’re all “what-if-ing” here, is it possible this could be some sort of child pornography ring thing? Hence, no motive for making a ransom for money (which supposedly isn’t the case) and stealing/keeping Caylee would make sense. Anyone?
On another site someone suggested that Casey was an escort of some sort. That these escort places offer child care for its employees.
It would make sense that Caylee is alive in that scenario. But I just can’t believe that this escort service wouldn’t just drop the kid off anonomously at a hospital or something. This way Casey knows Caylee is alright. Murder charge or prostitution charge? If I’m them I’m taking the prostitution charge.
THat’s the only scenario that I can buy that this little girl is still alive. The escort services child care thing would fit into Casey’s story.
I think the girl is dead but that theory would make sense in that the girl is alive still.
Wow! I never heard that … the escort thing. Where did you hear that? Wouldn’t actually surprise me however. But I was actually thinking more along the lines of Casey actually not knowing anything about these supposed friends of hers “secret lives” behind-the-scenes but only found out later after Caylee was already gone maybe? For instance … someone she supposedly trusted (as she originally stated) turned against her for whatever reasons and kept Caylee in order to put her into some child pornography situation? Either for money that way or just for sick thrills? There are a lot of really sick people out there … one never knows. Maybe the “babysitter” had been posing as someone else all that time and Casey never knew it until all this hit the fan, then she found out the truth too late? I know this is all just major speculation … it’s just driving me absolutely crazy sitting around the last few weeks not really truly KNOWING anything and the news media taking forever to provide anything genuinely new in the case that would prove it one way or the other. My heart breaks for Caylee and the potential possibilities.
I don’t believe Casey is the ONLY person who knows what has transpired in the disappearance of her daughter. And is she really smart enough to have been able to plan ahead to cover all this up to the point of having the whole world discussing it and still trying to figure it out?
JB
your taking what these people are saying personal. they are “gossiping” as you say because the person with all the answers (Casey) is not talking. if she or her family is not happy with the “gossip” then they should tell the truth and be done with it. IMO the grandparents did not do anything to Caylee, but every time they are asked to explain something that casey has said or done they say its not relevant to finding caylee. and i understand that they want the focus to be on Caylee, but if they dont start focusing on Casey and make her talk they will never find their granddaughter and the gossip will continue.
My thoughts…Obviously Caylee is in alive and in danger or she is flying with the angels in heaven. I do not think the incest theory mentioned by Nika is true. I have known lots of young single mothers who have children with the same last name as them & their parents. That is not even an issue. You do not have to give your child the father’s last name. Anyhow, it is obvious Casey either directly did something to Caylee, or is covering up for whomever is guilty. Her boyfriend Tony should have lots of information, so if he says he does not, it makes me wonder about him too. He was with Casey during this whole chaotic ordeal. He should have info. I don’t know what’s up with Cindy…I think she was in denial and has always enabled her daughter to do bad things hoping that her daughter would change & quit being a manipulative, lying thief. I don’t get the vibe that she knows what happened, but I do think she is suspicious of Casey & does not want to admit it (and I’m sure the lawyer does not want any of the family to admit they think Casey is lying). The most disturbing thing to me is that if Caylee is dead, they may very well never find her precious little body since it has been so long (which is why Casey stalled and stalled). I hope they can still gather enough evidence to convict her. What a selfish, heartless excuse for a mother.
Do you remember Casey made a comment to her father after he found her out about having the gas cans….Casey later on said: “isn’t it a shame about what happened in the shed?”
It was a strange comment that seemed to even baffle the father as if all of a sudden after being found nmistakingly guilty Casey now wanted to implicate her father.
And I think that is the way she operates, like a two year old; she cannot admit to a mistake, she never apologized to her father or mother about lying or stealing and instead she wants to place the blame on them. She always comes out as if beyond all reproach and the grandmother has obviously trained her daughter to be this way and now proclaims it herself just because her dasughter wants it.
So this is the family flaw…the grandmother has never made her daughter accountable for her actions. She also has no self respect to allow her daughter to walk all over her. She longs to spoil yet another child her granddaughter Caylee.
I think the grandmother is hysterical. She may know her daughter is guilty but is just trying to cover for her in order to have her back again.
If something did happen in that shed I still believe it may have been an accident. I dont see Casey as violent.
If it was an accident wouldnt she still serve time? The whole family is just trying to manipulate the system and see how far they can go. Remember Cindy asking her daughter : “how she wanted to play it” and Casey saying “No, she didnt want to play it that way. So Casey has developed her own strategy and Cindy has sensed it and is spreading it out like manure…re: the baby sitter, the kidnapping, how heroic her daughter really is….
I cant believe how totally insane it was for anyone to believe that Caylee would dramatically appear on her birthday. Even Nancy Grace fell for it. Everyone is asleep.
Wake-up! Does incest excuse killing your child or even getting rid of it?
I dont buy the incest thing. Casey who has never bothered to use protection had a one night stand and got knocked up and refused to abort and decided not to get the father involved who wanted no part of it and no child support.
Many studies were done in Harlem about young women having babies in order to leave home…it is controlling mothers who hold on and need to mother so the daughter goes out and has a love child as a gift to the mother. So the grandmother has something to look after and the daughter is set free.
J.B …
Excuse me, but you don’t know anything about me and since you’re so supposedly huge on being so open-minded in everyway, why is it that you seem to be the only one here bashing everyone else? Everyone is entitled to their own speculations/opinions, regardless of what those may be and whether we agree with them .. that’s what this country was originally founded on, that’s what’s supposed to make it so great … free speech, even if not everyone agrees or likes it.
I don’t agree with everyone’s theories/opinions here either, but I still find them interesting and I can respect their opinions enough to not let them completely overwhelm me. Why can’t you do the same? I never said I actually believed some of the things I have been speculating on … only that in order to figure out a criminal, you have to learn how to potentially think like one … outside the normal box. It sickens me to actually think anything outside of a true accident happened to Caylee, but sadly, all the evidence so far points to that not being the case. I pray to God I’m wrong.
That being said, not that I owe you any explanation but for your information, I DID have a job for 12 years … a very good one by the way for which I was paid very well. I quit my job years ago to stay home with my beautiful son and later my girls because I truly believe that children are a blessing from God and mothers have a responsibility to be there for their children. I am college educated and trust me … I am FAR from being white trash. We are not hurting by any means and my husband too has a very good job which provides us everything we need and more so that I can stay home with our children, which is what we both discussed before we ever even had them because our children were more important than all the extra things we could have instead.
I am also going back to school in the evenings for my Master’s to prepare further for my family’s future. Not something white trash actually does. When our children are in school full-time, I will go back to work full-time, but until then … I already HAVE a full-time job which in my mind is the most important one a person can have … raising their own children right so that they don’t turn out like Casey Anthony and her family. If you don’t like the discussions/opinions/theories stated here, you are as anyone else, free to leave. Why do you keep coming back if we’re all so terrible?
My heart goes out to you … you sound like a very angry individual.
I agree with you polo23…what is up with the anger on here from that J.B. character? I thought this was a place for people to express their opinions, emotions, theories, etc….I didn’t realize I was regressing back to highschool. We all have our own speculations, but none of us know for sure what actually happened. Geese, JB, chill out. I work full time, but I have 2 children that stay with my husband during the day, and I definitely think that is the most important job by far. Definitely not “trailer trashy”. These crazy angry people are just another example of how our society is deteriorating.
Amem, polo23! Well said.
I have to agree with Dave in message # 58. The police need to go with the FACTS of the case and since Casey isn’t revealing any they are relying on their own training and forensic evidence.
I do, however, think Casey knows the truth. At first, I did think the grandparents were involved in the disappearence but have since changed my mind. I think they are just in denial that their daughter, Casey can’t be capable of violence. No parent wants to believe that.
Now my theory is that Casey was distracted from her main role of motherhood and in a fit of rage hurt Caylee causing her death. In a panic she tried to contact several people for help, accounting for the flurry of phone calls but had second thoughts and hid and/or destroyed the body. She manages to put on a happy face and go about her life as if nothing happened. What I do not understand is her coldness and lack of emotion. I wish she would give up and tell the truth but I don’t think that’s going to happen.
One thing is certain though…the police aren’t telling everything to the media. They have a very good idea what happened, and they are diligently working to bring a resolution to this case and justice for little Caylee.
My concern here is that Casey will not get a fair trial since this is such a high profile case.
I pray for little Caylee and hope this will be solved soon.
I live in California and have been following the case from the moment it made national news. Although I check often for updates I am also careful to believe everything the media says because they tend to sensationalize issues to get viewership.
What I do pray for is a safe return for Caylee. In the world we now live in there are so many hideous crimes being committed that no crime ever surprises me anymore. We may see people’s outer appearances, but we don’t know their hearts. People have lost fear of God and do things we never though possible. May God have mercy on whoever has done any harm on this child and may the family get the closure they need and hopefully get Caylee safely back home.
Anyone else see the irony in Casey’s initials being CMA?
Polo..I have to agree with your comments to JB. We are ALL entitled to an opinion, whether it is shared by others. I’m not sure who JB is and why someone would lash out at a stranger. None of us here know what really happened to Caylee, but that is what this blog is about! We all have a theory, right or wrong. Hey, anything goes nowadays, so nothing is too far fetched. JB..you owe this gal an apology.
Polo..I agree with your comments. JB has no business name calling. We are all entitled to our theory. If someone knew for certain what happened, then the case would be solved. Don’t justify yourself to someone so closed minded. I wouldn’t waste my time explaining myself to him/her. JB..Don’t you think you owe this gal an apology? I think your words were very hurtful.
If Caylee is alive and well then what is the harm of telling law enforcement where she is? Especially since George states they have the perps under surveillance. Wouldn’t that put Caylee in more danger. Is all just a pack of lies. So for that I feel this ENTIRE family should be put under the microscope.
As of now I don’t believe Casey SHOULD have any rights to this child anymore. It was Casey who put this child in DANGER. No one on this site, as far as I know, was involved with that. Casey is the problem. Casey is the one who put this child in DANGER. Casey holds the key to this entire tragic story.
QUOTES of “POLO23″ – mother-of-three:
QUOTE 1:
“is it possible this could be some sort of CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ring thing?”
QUOTE 2:
“Wow! I never heard that … the ESCORT THING”
QUOTE 3:
“…and kept Caylee in order to put her into some CHILD PORNOGRAPHY situation?
Thanks for the insights into your hidden obsessions. I know what you need!
Either for money that way or just for sick thrills
QUOTES of “POLO23″ – mother-of-three:
QUOTE 1:
“is it possible this could be some sort of CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ring thing?”
QUOTE 2:
“Wow! I never heard that … the ESCORT THING”
QUOTE 3:
“…and kept Caylee in order to put her into some CHILD PORNOGRAPHY situation?
Quote 4:
“Either for money that way or just for sick thrills”
Thanks for the insights into your hidden obsessions. It´s obvious what you need!
My goodness JB. Maybe you are the one with sick obsessions. Mere speculations or theories do not constitute one having an obsession. As others have stated (and I concur), you are a sick, angry person! GO AWAY!!
There is a civilized land called USA. One little girl is missing in that country. One girl! Missing! Just missing!
There is another land far-far East, supposedly less civilized. Iraq it´s called. Beautiful little girls are dying,…DYING there by numbers unimaginable.
The land of Darfur is so uncivilized – most Americans have never even heard it´s name. More beautiful babies die there,…DIE there, by numbers so big, that 100000 won´t tell the truth.
A million civilized hypocrits shed a million tears for one missing girl. Nobody,…NOBODY dries, nobody sees the tears of mothers in Iraq, Darfur and so many other tortured lands, where a million mothers holding a million babies in their arms – all dead! DEAD!
JB, As for the going-ons in Iraq, we are too busy shedding tears for our soldiers! By the way, there are way more children missing in America than just Caylee, just in case you haven’t watched the news lately. The only difference about this missing child is her mother is withholding information that could ultimately lead authorities to her whereabouts. Once again, GO AWAY!
That’s what makes this country great. I can choose to turn on my computer, log into my internet account, come to this website, and read or post what I feel like.
JB…maybe its time you stopped choosing to read what others are posting. As far as I can see, no one is forcing you to come here. And as far as I can tell, your getting really upset about other peoples opinions. That makes you a very closed minded person. I don’t mean that as a personal attack just an observation.
Heard a pretty good quote from one of my very favorite movies…Platoon.
Free your mind and your arse will follow.
This girl has lied at every turn. Her parents have twisted the truth at every turn. GEORGE stated recently he has the perps under surveillance yet drives a van around asking where is Caylee? All the while he allows people to continue to search fruitless for Caylee. He allows donations to pour in looking for a little girl that’s not missing. Come on JB!
Go watch “Jerry Springer”, number 224! It´s made for Eastend-Grannies of the lower middle-class (from the trailor right into the unpaid paperback house, prefabed in Mexico). During “consumer-tips” you may shed a single false tear for y/our aggressor boys.
Bingo!!! Nancy Grace is reportin Casey is in solitary confinement.
I’ve been saying that they need to put Casey in solitary confinement. Casey is a true narcisist. They have to take away her power to get her to crack. Her power is manipulating people. She will crack in a week I’m sure of it.
Leave her to her own thoughts and its over in a week.
JB..please explain what it is that makes you so angry. Yes, there are other cases besides Caylee. Lots of bad things happen, I agree; however, this blog is specifically designed to vent our theories and concerns about this little girl. She may be “just missing” or she may be dead. Either way, something is wrong and we are here to try to sort it out. Tell me what is wrong with that? If it upsets you so much, please don’t comment or read the posts..it’s not too difficult to detach yourself if you wish. In the meantime, we are all entitled to speak up and chime in, but I can’t see where knocking the bloggers is getting you anywhere.
JB, since you know so much about trailer trash and Jerry Springer, you should go watch your show it’s probably on right now! Get an education(…”prefabed”?) or a job. This site is for Caylee not your ramblings about Darfur or Iraq. If you want to talk world politics then go to CNN or MSNBC. I am done with you, you are the toilet paper I wiped my A## with this morning!
This forum started out discussing the disapperance of little Caylee. It is such a bizarre case and has drawn a lot of interest, concern and speculation. We would all like to see this little one safe. It seems to me if we were all sitting in a room together discussing this issue face to face… respect would be shown and the personal jabs would not be tolerated. Also, someone who is not interested in the case would not be there.
To all of you who so nicely supported me with the JB thing, thank you. My heart has truly broken over this one case and feeling so helpless to be able do anything to actually help or figure out what truly happened to that sweet little girl, as a mother is just heartwrenching. Trying to figure out any other possibility besides what appears is the case somehow makes me feel better that somehow maybe there truly is still some little shred of hope in actually finding her alive somehow. I know some of the theories presented here are occasionally pretty far out there (and pretty devastating too I admit), but at the same time, like I said … stranger things have happened. Example: I never ever thought Elizabeth Smart would ever suddenly just walk up her driveway one day a year later and yet, that’s exactly what happened I believe.
My one twin daughter looks very much like Caylee but is one year older. I think that’s partly what has done it for me with this case … I look at my precious little girl and I can’t even imagine doing anything to harm a hair on her head, let alone something so callous as it has appeared Casey has possibly done. Not to mention how truly bizarre and maddening this whole story has gotten with all the secrecy, the lies, the twists and turns, etc.
JB does have a point however about how hundreds, even thousands of little children die everyday in countries like Iraq, Darfur (now Georgia as well with the fighting there), and yes … that is truly sad, however, like “Worried for Caylee” said, “This isn’t a site for political ramblings .. it’s about Caylee.”
So thank you all … I sincerely appreciate it.
Don´t even try to patronize me. True hypocrits like you are my worst nightmare! Ivomit over any word you say. Disgusting!
J.B …
It started out as a nice little conversation, but now it’s just gotten silly. It’s obvious you’re not from America. WHAT are you so angry about and how old are you?
As we all speculate on what may have happened to Caylee, I just wonder where are the rest of the family members? Casey claims the Daddy is dead…but he had parents, and aren’t they Caylee’s other grandparents? My daughter has a 14 month old baby girl, she isn’t w/the Daddy and he is not a responsible father. But his parents are still the babies grandparents. If my grandaughter was missing… they would be involved. This is a totally upsetting story, but the real truth lies in one persons very confused head.
My prayers are for the child…and the entire family to be able to soon know the truth no matter how horrible it is. They need closure and Caylee deserves just that. Bless Little Caylee Marie
J.B. is an idiot that deserves to be in Darfur with the rest of the people he talks about! I recommend that no one else gives him the pleasure of responding to his disrespectful, idiotic remarks. J.B. is an uneducated fu#% face that has nothing better to do but put other people down in order to make himself feel worthy. Anything else stated on this site should be about Caylee and not J.B.’s ignorant self. He is getting way too much pleasure out of this.
Hey Gang..Yes, it is obvious that JB is getting a kick out of stirring us up..This person is very twisted and loves to stir the pot. Let’s not give him/her that chance. I say we ignore him and he will go away. Let’s not feed these negative vibes he is trying to inflict. It’s like talking to a 5 year old brat with a temper tamtrum. Anyone else game?
#236..Yes, let’s keep this about Caylee. JB WHO?
Yes, sounds great to me. Let’s keep this blog amongst the people with something constructive or at least educated to say.
Thanks to this being a free country, I happily skip over JB’s posts now.
About the “father” of Caylee, has anyone seen his myspace profile?
link to his myspace profile
Casey posted:
May 11 2007 12:29 PM
wow. i just got back from vacation and heard the news. it’s absolutely unreal… and i didn’t want to believe it. you really did touch everyone you ever met. it was too soon, and you had so much to show the world. you are loved, you are missed, you’re in all of our prayers. if i’m this heartbroken about it, i can only imagine your family. my prayers go out to all of you. RIP jesus.
miss you, love you, see you in time my friend. ♥
Just doesn’t sound like a message to a deceased “baby-daddy” to me. Just a “friend”.
and…I know that you can’t merely judge paternity by looks, but just seems to me that his genes would show a lil’ bit?!? Look at his pics on his myspace. I wonder how many men are watching this unfold, and got it racing thru their minds if Caylee “could” belong to them.
ok…link didn’t work….
http://www.myspace.com/xxupononexx
Playing devils advocate again.
1. Casey drops Caylee off.
2. Casey goes to pick up Caylee.
3. No Caylee No Baby sitter.
Okay, at this point what goes through Casey’s mind? To me at this point there is no reason to suspect any harm will befall the child. Why else would she be allowed to pick her up anyways?
If she is being honest about everything then I can understand 12-24 hours of trying to find the kid on your own. Anything after that seems crazy.
I would love to hear her explain EXACTLY when she started to feel the childs life was in danger.
Sam …
I concur. Another question:
If Casey Anthony isn’t actually talking to anyone anymore outside of her lawyer, and they can’t call her, HOW in the world would she suddenly think and therefore believe her daughter was suddenly in danger in the 1st place? SPIES … it HAS to be spies inside the jail, right? LOL
I beleive that casey did something with this child.and to many inconsistancies in the grandparents statements also. the grandparents know i beleive what happened to caylee.(george anthony) retired police officer and (cindy anthony) a nurse, yes they both have smelled death before no doubt and cindy knew not to wash the pants that casey had been wearing but she did anyway, and george expecially knew that more so. a lot of evidence was washed away i am sure. but on the other hand if the authorities smelled decomposition in the trunk of the car then they already know before the test come back. why because that is their job and not the first case. casey has reminded me of the susan smith case from the begining, and i beleive that all she is doing is buying time and hoping that her family can come up with a different scenario about caylee’s disappearance for her. the new pics circulating about this other little girl suppose to be caylee, she does not even look like her to me she is much to big and seems to be of a 5 year old or maybe 6 year old.
Yep! I’ve said all along that this reeks of Susan Smith!
I’m a “people watcher.” I have been studying this for some time. Watch the interview with George where his face twitches over and over. This is a nervous reaction to a question that he is answering incorrectly. I don’t think the Grandparents were in on this, but I do believe they realize their daughter is lying, so they are sticking to this story that someone is watching them, etc. to protect Casey. They know Caylee is gone, so now they don’t want to lose Casey as well. Please tell me this. What is the motive for this kidnapping? Nobody has asked for ransom of any kind. This is a pack of lies from Casey. I also do NOT believe the daddy of Caylee is dead. I believe she just wanted to keep it hush hush. How convenient for the Dad to die on his way to Caylee’s Birthday party last year. That is what a roomate said on Greta last night. He doesn’t believe her either.
Interesting thought about the incest, I actually considered that, but not incest with her father, but her brother Lee, hence the name “CAYLEE”, and of course the entire family knows about it.
The alleged father died in May of ‘07…Caylee’s birthday is in August…?
heartbroken…That’s interesting..The boyfriend’s roommate was on TV last night and said Casey told them this is how the father died. She was staying with them all through June and told them Caylee was with her parents. He said he didn’t see Caylee after Father’s Day, but Casey spent almost every night with them..everytime someone asked where Caylee was, Casey always said with her parents…Sounds pretty fishy!
Violet, where did you see/hear about the photos of another little girl that may be Caylee? I can’t any information about that, but am interested in seeing the photos.
This morning when the grandparents visited Casey in jail, George flipped out again at the media. It looks like he may crack soon…he also made those weird comments about watching the kidnappers. I think he’s starting to fall apart.
yep…another of the numerous lies.
This morning on Fox News, they had a Forensics Psychologist on and asked him about the interview last night with Tony’s roommate with Greta. The roommate Clint sayed Casey stayed with them almost every evening through June (Caylee supposedly was there during the daytime, but never stayed the night) and seemed perfectly “fine” … nothing out of the ordinary and nothing strange about her behavior. He said they learned Casey had lied to them about a lot of things as well.
The Fox hosts asked this forensics psychologist HOW in the world a mother who’s child was missing (or potentially dead) could behave in the way that Casey did and the psychologist gave them one word, “Psychopath” and he went on to list all the characteristic behaviors of one and Casey has all of them.
JB, thanks for the laugh! How selfish you must be to turn this forum about a missing baby girl into something about the KKK, Jerry Springer and White Trash. Most of us are here to express our prayers for the safe return of little Caylee. What your motive is for being in this forum is beyond me, but ovbiously you need to take a course on TACT. Do they offer that in your country?
God Bless You Caylee!
I am just sick to my stomach. Casey definately killed her daughter. Her parents should be ashamed of themselves. They have always enabled there daughter and they still are even after she murdered their grand daughter. thats sick. I hope Casey Anhony rots for what she did to that little angel. May she die the same horrible death she inflicted on her daughter. Just a sad, sick, twisted mess.
Ladies and gentlemen, I think the best thing to do is just ignore JB. That person has just come on here to get to people, and since it is obviously working, its not going to stop. People like that are starving for attention, and sadly they’ve learned its negative actions that receive the most attention. The more you give into and react to the comments JB leaves, the more it will keep going on. It’s just pettiness.
did anybody ever stop to think that yeah all of those things about casey may be true and she may have actually hurt/murdered her child, but in that case she needs to be analyzed and of course it wont necessarily be her fault due to the fact that she is mentally unstable. but also, no one ever stops to think that maybe casey cant tell anyone about this because, she could be threated and maybe if she does talk about it they will kill caylee, and it could have something to do with drugs or anything for that matter. but the fact that casey is in jail and it is clear that anything she says is later released to the pubic she cant REALLY say anything she needs to because no matter how much she trusts someone or wnats to talk she cant. and about the pictures of her partying and how she showed no remorse for the daughter days after she was missing, well, if for some reason she does have some mental problems that may be her way of copeing nobody actually knows casey not even her parents wheter anyone believes that or not, only you know yourself and know your feelings, and until shes proven guilty with full evidence i am not convienced she killed anyone, although there is a possibily that anything could of happened i think that everyone is seeing things “AS THEY ARE DISPLAYED” and logically assuming the worst. but really if you were in her place and you were innocent, NO ONE WOULD BELIEVE YOU EITHER, so someone has to realize that maybe she is telling the truth whether she is or not what can it hurt to let her out of jail but be on paroll..and she will still be watched but then she can privatley speak to somebody and actually HELP in the case afterall she is “the person of interest”
Exactly Polo,
My thoughts exactly…
Leaveit tobeaver: I thought the roommate seemed pretty credible also. She was lying to everyone about the whereabouts of Caylee.
HA: Here is a link to the people who say they spotted Caylee. Interesting thing is that alot of sites have taken the picture out. I think its because it wasn’t her. I seen the pictures and it looks similiar but not her. Anyways, instead of taking a picture I don’t know why they didn’t call the cops or snatch the girl from the people.
http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/caylee-anthony-update/
Isn’t it interesting to note that Casey does not have any friends of her own? As in long time friends from school, the neighborhood etc.? All of her friends were people she met at these clubs in her twenties. I truly do wonder about the life of this woman. Not one person is coming forward to even say that they could possibly be the father of Caylee or that they even know Casey outside of these last few years of hers? Does anyone find that odd?
Yes … I find it a little strange too her not seeming to have any actual real friends outside of the last few years that are somehow attached to her going to clubs, Facebook, etc. Wasn’t Caylee’s supposed father (the one who’s supposedly deceased) a “friend” from Casey’s in High School though? He would’ve maybe been the one person I’ve heard of who was in fact from her past longer than just a few years prior. But many people don’t even believe he was actually the father either. She was lied for so long to so many people that it’s really hard to know what’s the truth and what isn’t in this case. Even the judge was stated as saying to her during her hearing, “I believe Miss Anthony and the truth are strangers”. Now the ex-roommate of her previous boyfriend stated last night that she lied to them also the entire time he lived there in regard to Caylee being at her grandparent’s each time they asked where she was. Interesting Casey supposedly was going over there a lot more as time went on to her boyfriend Tony’s with Caylee during the daytime hours, but then suddenly the roommate states she was coming over much more but Caylee was no longer with her. What’s that about?!?! The ex-roommate I believe looked and sounded pretty credible.
Did anyone see the interview with the grandfather the other day where he was saying kidnappers have Caylee, they know who they are and they’re being watched … oh and by the way, maybe they even know it? I agree with leaveittobeaver (#245) that his body language (much harder to conceal) seemed very strange. I too noticed that. He almost seemed a little arrogant, trying to convince himself as well as everyone else that they know things even the authorities don’t know. But more than that, he seemed nervous (twitchy almost in parts) and at least to me came across as very unbelieveable. I do believe that George knows deep down inside knows something already happened to Caylee and is just desperately trying to convince himself otherwise. But it seems obvious he is under a severe amount of emotional stress and is hiding under a huge amount of denial which I believe is beginning to gradually break down. It almost seems as if he’s just ready to crack. For the first time in awhile, because of that interview, I almost felt sorry for him. Still not sure what to make of the grandparent’s though. Cindy I think still irks me more than George and I do believe she geuninely likes the media attention. Anyone sense this as well or it just me?
Polo..I pretty much think like you are about this, except I’m not sure what I think about Cindy liking the Media attention..While she may, she may also be the “stronger” personality/spokesperson, compared to George. She MAY be thinking he might say something that is incorrect or maybe she has better social skills. I haven’t decided one way or another about this yet.
This is a very interesting case. I have been following it just like the rest of the country. There are several things that need to be asked and considered, in my opinion:
1. Why has NO ONE come forward to say that they knew or were the babysitter? If there was/is a babysitter, why do the Grandparents NOT know this person?
2. The incest possibilty is a good one. There are a few different possiblities here. Could be between Casey and her father, could be between Caylee and Grandfather. Anything is so possible.
3. It sounds like the son/brother/Uncle, Lee, knows more than he is willing to admit. Either he is trying to come to grips with whatever happened to Caylee or he is simply fed up with his sister and all of her lies and just doesn’t know how to respond.
4. The Grandparents are just as much at fault as Casey. I think that they have known the truth since day one and refuse to give up their daughter. Liars learn from other liars and the Grandparents have been lying since day one. The Grandparents are talking just to hear themselves talk.
5. I would fire the lawyer. Defense attorneys know their clients are guilty from the very beginning. They simply try to get the client off on a lesser charge. This lawyer is dumber than a brick.
6. Casey CAN be charged and sentenced with murder without a body, based on evidence.
7. I would be susprised if there really was a “father” of this child. There are just too many holes in the “he died in an accident” story. Anybody can say that if they want to get out of telling the truth.
8. I don’t think the Grandmother is jealous. I am sure she knows what happened and is doing everything she can to cover it up. She said that Casey is the “best mother in the world and once the truth is out, everyone will agree”.
The case is interesting. Authorites are keeping information close to their chest for reason that are understandable. They want a conviction.
We can all be armchair detectives and say what we think actually happened. But in the end, it boils down to this:
There is a missing 3 yr old. She has been mising over 2 months now. Casey and her parents know exactly what happened. And the authorities are fully aware that the Grandparents know something. Co-operating with authorities are one thing, lying about what they know is another thing.
I, as well as numerous people believe Caylee is deceased. It truly is a sad sad story. I firmly believe that Casey killed her and Grandma knows more than she is saying. I have been following this story since I heard about it (as often as I can). Everytime I hear Grandma speak I want to scream. How do you not know for such a long period of time that your grand-daughter has been gone. I understand that they say Casey took off with Caylee but, still..
To Heart-Broken:
I went on the Myspace link and the one who posted that comment is either a friend or relative. It was not Casey. Casey had a Myspace page which her parents have since taken over.
I dont understand why the DNA results are not back yet?
Why they have not brought the dogs back in and more of them?
Have they moved the toy house in the back yard? (Maybe something under there)
Could they test the “apparent biological fathers” family for some kind of paternity testing?
Could they get any of his DNA somewhere?
Polygraph??? On mom and family.
Maybe Casey accidently killed her or maybe she did with intent. Was she jealous that Caylee got more attention from the parents?
You dont hear much from the father (grandfather) or brother. Why?
Why do they allow Cindy to speak so much? She is just making the whole thing seem like a whirlwind of lies. From the “damned dead body smell in the car” to it being a rotten pizza.
I think Casey has canceled all of these visits because maybe she is feeling a little remorse…maybe (hopefully). Or is she ashamed of what she has done.
I really believe they need to make all of them take a polygraph!
Nika, Very interesting train of thought about the possiblility of incest.
I wanted to remind people of another little girl- JonBenét Ramsey; her first name is an adaptation of her father’s first and middle names (John Bennett), and her middle name is that of her mother, Patsy. JonBenét was not a product of incest- and I think that everyone that keeps insinuating that Caylee is, on the basis of her name Casey+Lee= Caylee- needs to put that theory to rest. In fact, my own middle name is that of my paternal great-grandmother, and my first is that of my mathernal great-grandmother. So- everyone that subscribes to the “name is key” theory probably assumes I am a product of my lesbian great-grandmothers. Second- I’m pretty sure that more people than not, believed (without a shadow of a doubt) for the last 13 years that JonBenét was murdered by her parents or sibling and/or abused sexually by her father or brother. After 13 years (and her mother’s death) we find that it was indeed- not a single member of her family that was involved with her death. That poor family lived for over a decade with the stigma of abusers/murderers hanging over their heads. Please remember that none of us are “sure” or “definitely” know ANYTHING. We can theorize until the cows come home- but let us remember that we must not make the same mistake twice, and act as judge and jury- when we have not the training, or the tools to do so.
UnixJo,
I think JonBennet and Caylee are two very different cases.
1. They had the body of JonBennet but not the body of Caylee.
2. To my knowledge…the Ramsey’s never lied and said they worked somewhere they didn’t.
3. To my knowledge…the Ramsey’s never once said she was kidnapped by the babysitter that didn’t exist.
4. To my knowledge…the Ramsey’s never once tried to impede the process of finding the killer of JonBennet.
5. To my knowledge..the Ramsey’s didn’t wait 31 days to report the death.
6. To my knowledge…the Ramsey’s cooperated on every level of the investigation.
So really, the cases are very different. Thus some of the theories are just as likely as not being likely.
Sylvia,
I agree 100%. Unfortunately, its not a murder investigation just yet. Its a missing person investigation right now. I think murder charges are coming. I feel they will dig it up eventually.
As to the wrapped body. That’s very keen observation on your part. I would imagine that a previously “wrapped” body would not be hit on by the cadaver dog. Especially if its wrapped pretty tightly. I’m no expert though but it makes total sense to me.
Sam-
They are indeed two very different cases- I was not comparing them on the basis of their actual case files- but on the fact that the court of public opinion condemned innocent people to a decade of pain.
1. The body has nothing to do with my argument- whether or not Caylee is deceased is not being compared to the fact that JonBenet was, in fact dead and accounted for.
2. Unless you have the extra time to ponder over the legal paperwork with me, I can assure you that- Patsy and John made statements- which the police considered lies, if not half-truths. (If you really want to go toe to toe with me I can write them out for you)
3. The Ramsey’s had a letter from a “kidnapper” who- technically did not exist- as JonBenet was not “kidnapped”. Police made reference to the fact that it is an infinitesimally small number of victims of “kidnappings” that are found deceased in their own homes.
4. The Ramsey’s initially were very co-operative- that is, until they felt that they were being focused on- in turn causing them to go to the media instead of the police.
5. The time frame isn’t the point of my comment- the comparison was to two families that had “circumstantial” evidence turn into damming evidence- not necessarily with merit.
6. see 4. They did not- at all times “co-operate”. Their attitude towards the police changed dramatically when they learned that the police had refused to release JonBenet’s body until they agreed to be interrogated- and that the chief of police had announced that there was “not a killer loose in Boulder”- it was from that point on- that they became distrustful of the police in the investigation.
You missed my entire point. The Ramsey’s were accused of incest, of lying- and of murder. None of which they had been involved with. Sadly the public felt else wise- and Patsy- in her lifetime, was never fully exonerated, or apologized to.
And fyi- what you did was NOT “playing the devil’s advocate”.
As always I will never take the focus off FINDING Caylee. Yet, if appears to me that there are two types of people interested in this case.
1. People who want to find the little girl.
2. People who want to shift focus off finding the little girl. They tend to be closed minded to all theories. They tend to make comparisons to other cases. They refuse to cast doubt on the Grand parents credibility. And they attack other posters opinions.
I fall into category 1.
UnixJo…the incest theory is just as likely as some INVISIBLE BABYSITTER TAKING THE CHILD.
Just as likely as some “IDIOTIC” covert operation by the family to get the girl.
Just as likely as the “drowning”
Just as likely as Casey staight up murdered the child.
Just as likely that Caylee found the golden ticket and is as Willy Wonkas Chocolate Factory.
Not as likely as anything to do with the Ramsey case as you’re trying to indicate.
Sorry..but I just have to agree to disgree with your inclusion of that case. Its just so off the mark.
Anyways, we will never know what actually happened until Casey tells the truth.
Sadly, I believe little Caylee is dead. I believe her mother killed her – probably intentionally. This woman seems to have no conscious, no remorse, and strictly a person who thinks of herself and herself only. I think her parents are contributing to her illness – they can obviously see what the rest of us see – but choose to stay in denial. The bottom line is we are either a part of the problem or a part of the solution and this entire family is a part of the problem.
This is a sick, very dysfunctional family.
First of all, why would Casey (as a victim of incest) use this particular opportunity to “save” her child- by having her spirited off to safety? She lived at home with her parents- and was free to come and go as she pleased. If all she had to say from jail is “I was molested- Caylee was molested!!” DNA test my baby (when I reveal her location) and get restraining orders against my awful-terrible father (or brother). Why do I keep hearing about this “concrete/cement slab?” They had patio tiles put down (which by the way the police did in fact, dig up). So that theory would have meant…that she buried her child UNDER the area right outside the door- hoping her parents would need a new patio? And if any of you have done cement work- you know you have to level the area, and put in reinforcing bars- all of which would cause the ground to be disturbed. So let’s just say she did- AND needed daddy to help her cover this up- “Hey dad- let’s lay some cement over here- NOBODY will think to look under freshly poured cement”. “Sounds good Case- I’m so glad my police training means nothing to me at this moment!”. The gas cans…ahh to “burn” the remains. Ask any mortician- gas does not burn hot enough to destroy bone and teeth. And starting a forest fire is always a good way to remain inconspicuous. Cadaver dogs can MOST DEFINITELY smell a dead body that has been wrapped/ buried/ burned etc.- if they couldn’t- then all they’d be good for was dead bodies lying naked under an inch of leaves. The shovel theory? Have any of you tried to dig a hole deep enough to bury something bigger than a microwave? It takes longer than an hour or two- and if anyone has seen the Anthony’s backyard, you’d notice how much gardening is done there. “Hey mom- totally ignore that lump by the gladiolas- I’m going to be planting some things- so don’t dig over there”. (The Anthony’s also have dogs- so that would be a fun chore trying to keep them from digging in the yard). The grandparents obviously didn’t know anything was going on in the original 911 calls- you can distinctly hear Casey and Cindy arguing about where Caylee was in the beginning of the recording BEFORE the 911 operator was directly connected” So- why would someone “fake” a conversation that they didn’t think was being recorded? especially when they didn’t realize the jailhouse phone calls were being recorded (or could be reviewed) even though there is a message that states as much?
Sam:
SERIOUSLY listen CLOSELY.
I DO NOT think this has ANYTHING to with the Ramsey case. How many times do I have to say that? My point was….DON’T say you KNOW anything when you merely THINK it.
And please- WHY on EARTH would the incest theory be “just as likely” but the Ramsey connection “not as likely”. Frankly, (even though I NEVER implied that the CASES were connected) it would be AS likely as Caylee being in Wonka land.
Why do you think we all have to agree here? I am not ready to lynch anyone, excuse me for having an open mind!
Oh, and “He allows donations to pour in looking for a little girl that’s not missing.”? AND “1. People who want to find the little girl…I fall into category 1″? Can’t have your cake and eat it too.
I am allowed my opinion- I NEVER said you couldn’t have one, and again with my “fyi” YOU attacked what I said…AND you misinterpreted what I said in the first place!!!!!!!!
Seriously,
The Ramsey case was a murder case from the start. The Anthony case is a missing person’s case.
You had not point Unix. None!
However, you have a motive and that’s to take the focus off finding Casey and the other people who helped her get rid of the body.
And its so obvious that your other motive is to offer reasons why this FAMILY continues to impede the process of finding this little girl.
You’ve yet to offer any reason as to this girls dissappearance other than the RAMSEY’S. I guess the Ramsey’s did it now?
Its not logical and quite frankly the act of a desparate person.
July 24, 2008 at 1:23 am
(1) nika says:
i think that Casey is a victim of incest and her father is also Caylee’s father. and this is why there is no record of a father and this is why casey is a compulsive liar and shows little emotion- that’s what can happen to incest victims. i think Caylee became in danger of being an incest victim and either she was rapad and murdered by the grandfather or casey killed her in a type of defense. either way i think all three (grandmother, grandfather and Casey) worked together to get rid of the body. and Cindy is speaking in very specific terms when she says “there could be one or two reasons why Casey is not telling the truth and that somebody could be holding something over her head and threatening her in some way.” i think Casey has been living in an extreme state of conflict, being both a victim and a dependent mother and maybe she snapped- or maybe that grandfather did it. But either way- i think there is a deep back story here that actually makes everything make a certain sense…
I read other blogs by “Nika” on another website this morning claiming the same theory.
One blogger said she was listed on Casey Anthony’s MySpace page as a “friend” and asked if she knows Casey personally. As of this morning there was no response.
Sam, you are going to give someone an aneurysm. I DO have a point. The Ramsey case WAS not a murder case “from the start”. I swear- I wish I hadn’t used that as reference. I used it because: people are saying that the NAME Caylee can be interpreted as a clue to some sort of incest because it is a combination of names. I did not point out posters that said that- I was just…you know stating a fact. I am the DEFINITION of open minded- you don’t know HOW I feel about this case and whether or not I think Casey killed her daughter. You- on the other hand by stating: “you (Unix) have a motive and that’s to take the focus off finding Casey and the other people who helped her get rid of the body”- made it clear that your mind is 100% made up. That is not open minded- that is close-minded. It seems as though you would be the first to tie a noose around Casey’s neck if you were the Judge right at this second. (See how I used the word “seems”- that means it’s just my opinion- maybe not necessarily what you WOULD do). My motive was- to remind people to stay open-minded (using a reference to a case where people were NOT) and to…in my longer post…”play devil’s advocate”.
JB your an idiot. You obviously didn’t read my blog to the end. This is not “my” theory, it came from “Nika’s” July 24 blog. My point was at the end, when I stated some suspect this Nika knows Casey personally because she’s listed as a “friend” on her MySpace page.
In retrospect I agree with Sam. With all the lies and idiotic statements the family has made leaves me wondering exactly what happened the little girl.
Oh yay, someone finally figured out that you can enter in any name you want, and post as them! I was wondering how long that would take.
Once again..let’s quit feeding this beast we call JB.. Now, on with the comments and updates, please.
New break in case …
http://www.wftv.com/news/17193405/detail.html
Some interesting stuff Polo..I sure hope there is a real break in this case soon. The Sheriff says they are not looking at a kidnapping, (which I think we all knew.)
I have not heard an answer to this question. Why did Casey have a babysitter or Nanny if she didn’t work? How did she pay for it, and how could she justify doing so without income? Anyone??
“Rat-pack” Song:
Where´s the blood,
what´s that stain,
Body fluids – again ‘n again,
in that dream I saw saliva,
in that pond, is that a diver?
Where´s the blood,
what´s that stain,
Grandpa did it – again ‘n again,
in that dream, I saw his sperm,
look that face, that guy shall burn
Where´s the blood,
what´s that stain,
Cindy´s lying – again ‘n again
neigbours wish her down the drain,
look that bitch, she´s to blame
Chorus:
this land´s called Flori dida,
sing it brother, Momma, Pa
our life’s quite wonderful
throw that stone and let´s be cruel
Where´s the blood,
what´s that stain,
Casey killed her – again ‘n again,
public needs no second guess
look that mother, what a face
Chorus-outro:
Where´s the blood,
what´s that stain,
what´s that stain,
what´s that stain
Rat-pack song
Where´s the blood,
what´s that stain,
Body fluids – again ‘n again,
in that dream I saw saliva,
in that pond, is that a diver?
Where´s the blood,
what´s that stain,
Grandpa did it – again ‘n again,
in that dream, I saw his spe*m,
look that face, that guy shall burn
Where´s the blood,
what´s that stain,
Cindy´s lying – again ‘n again
neigbours wish her down the drain,
look that bitch, she´s to blame
Chorus:
this land´s called Flori dida,
sing it brother, Momma, Pa
our life’s quite wonderful
throw that stone and let´s be cruel
Where´s the blood,
what´s that stain,
Casey killed her – again ‘n again,
public needs no second guess
look that mother, what a face
Chorus-outro:
Where´s the blood,
what´s that stain,
what´s that stain,
what´s that stain
I think JB forgot his meds tonight..Rest JB, Rest.
JB needs a life. Your right MomaRosa-he must have forgotten his meds or maybe they need to up his dose! He is a raging idiot.
Thanks Polo for the link. I hope something big breaks now before Casey gets out and is not be charged rightfully for what has happened. I believe she killed her.
ok.why would you leave your purse in a car that has ran out of gas with all your personal info in it?maybe she was hoping someone would steal the car and blame all this on them…and who picked up casey when her car ran out of gas..who was driving her around for a month that the mom hadn`t seen her..she had to be living with someone so she could change clothes and sleep.why didn`t the boyfriend are friends of casey ask her where is your car at casey and where is your purse at..and why haven`t you seen your kid in 30 days because she hasn`t been with you in 30 days..so who was driving her from point A to point b all that time? something not right here ..how was she changing clothes and getting into bars without any id and money. if she left purse in car…maybe casey buried her kid with the father that died ,in the grave yard where he is buried at so that caylee could be next to her dad.. with that cell phone that she said she lost in park are somewhere.buried that cell phone so that know one could trace her calls.. someone else knows something..because someone was with casey all that time.didn`t the mom ask casey about her own car .like casey bring our car back,and didn`t the mom wonder how caylee was eating and how was she changing caylee clothes for 30 days.if casey had know money are job to take care of little caylee.and didn`t the mom are dad mow grass for a month ,because they would need gas for mower.and see the gas jugs where missing.if casey had stoleing the gas cans.and why would you have pizza in the back of your car.i eat my pizza at home are in front seat not the back of my car..and when i get done, i put the rest in trash can not the back of my car..how did the mom know that the so call pizza was in back of car for 30 days, if she hadn`t seen casey in a month.and the mom said she found casey pants and shoes in the car..and said they smelled bad and she washed them .what did they smell like pizza to..get real..there is more the mom knows then she is telling..and why didn`t the mom answer all them phone calls that casey was making on the 15-16 if she was so worried about them .you know you would see all them missed calls on your caller id.are cell phone..so where was mom on them dates that she didn`t answer caseys calls
My theory is that Casey was on drugs!She didn’t have a job,stole and lied,and her mother caved into her like I’ve seen others mothers do because she was in denial,Casey probably gave her daughter to someone and was threatened by them and that is why she won’t talk because the media would let it out before the person is caught,I hope Caylee is found safe and that Casey loses all rights to that little girl,how can they say she was a good mother!? she let her daughter go missing! THAT is not a mother !!! I wonder why they don’t think the boyfriend might be lying….or other people…have they checked out where she was staying?There seems to be some overlooked or missing evidence in this case,or maybe we just haven’t heard it all.I don’t know but it’s absolutely terrible,I look at my son sleeping right now and thank god I know where he is and that I keep him safe!As for comments about why Caylees last name is Anthony…get with the times people,maybe the father wanted nothing to do with her,maybe Casey didn’t want him to know he had a daughter,maybe she doesn’t know who the dad is…who cares,I wish my son had my last name,since his dad turned out to be a loser and ruined my sons name for him.
The Anthony family is so unlikeable it is easy to think they are involved. They need the media to keep this story out there. They need to turn their anger toward Casey. Maybe they would get some info then. ?Where did her family think she was working, surely not at Universal all this time.
I wanted to address some things I’ve been thinking about. Let me know what you think.
1. Casey referred to the person that watched her daughter as “the nanny”, but a nanny is someone that looks after the child of a single family “in the child’s home”. She probably thought that telling people that she had a nanny (instead of a babysitter) made her seem more sophisticated and cultured (not to mention better off financially). This implies that she is insecure and in need of people’s praise and admiration. Appearances might have been everything to her, at any cost.
2. Where WAS she going during the day? Her boyfriend (now ex) and his roommate stated that she left for work from their apartment, as did her parents. I highly doubt she was wandering around spending the day with Caylee, so either she has another set of friends that thought she worked at night when she really was just leaving them to go back to the people that thought she worked during the day. If so, where are these people? It seems like everyone is coming forward so they can have their 15 minutes of fame on the news, so why not them? I don’t believe the escort theory, but if it was true; do you really think that one of the other “escorts” wouldn’t take the opportunity to sell their story to a tabloid, or get national fame by being the person that brings that kind of sensational information forward?
3. Is it possible that Casey bought the “BlackJack” phone so that she could call herself from a private number, making it look like she had contact with the “kidnapper”. She might not have realized that she couldn’t call another phone on the same plan using a single sim card. The BlackJack could have had a sim card she knew she couldn’t use because it would show on her phone records, and she really did swap it out to call her using the one from her regular cell phone, only to find that it wouldn’t register on a phone that wasn’t active. She did mention in her phone call to Lee that she had only had the (BlackJack) phone for “a week, week and a half” in early June.
4. Is it possible that like a lot of us, Casey watched enough forensic shows to know a few things about an investigation like this? She might have taken the gas cans that were stolen sometime after 6pm on the 23rd, (possibly the 22nd- the police report lists both dates)and 10 am on the 24th, not because she wanted to burn a body, but because she knew that if she bought gas at any point while transporting the body, there would be a record of it (if she used a credit card) or that she might be recognized if she had to go in to pay (using cash). Maybe the small amount of gas was to hopefully get her farther than the tank of gas she had, without having to interact with anyone. The car was found with an empty tank, so she obviously drove it dry.
5. The drowning theory is possible, if you consider that Casey never seemed to spend more than a few hours with Caylee at a time. If she couldn’t find anyone to watch her, she might have put Caylee in the pool and thought if there was a problem, Caylee would yell for her. Casey could have watched a movie, took a nap, anything. Let’s say she took a nap, and woke up after 3 or so hours, went outside and found poor Caylee floating and dead. People are aking “why not call 911 if it was an accident?”, but would she have wanted to if she had to admit to them (they would be able to tell how long the child had been deceased) that she left her alone for hours? Probably not.
6. The drowning theory has holes, especially when you consider that they found what might have been blood in the trunk. Drowned bodies do not bleed. After the heart stops beating, blood no longer pumps through veins, a dead body does not bleed, period. If the stain was body fluids from decomposition, they would have acted on that by now, they don’t need a body to press murder charges if they can prove that a death did occur. There was no mention of finding the chemicals one uses in a pool either, no chlorine etc, in the trunk.
7. It seems like there is not a single person that Casey knows that she did not lie to. She could have been “robbing Peter to pay Paul” and had many, MANY people that she left Caylee with, especially strangers that didn’t ask too many questions. She could have been promising payment to all of them “when her paycheck came” and then when it didn’t, she could have made excuse after excuse. She could have been telling people that she had to pay rent on her own home, that the accounting department screwed up, pretty much anything. But people only put up with that for so long.
8. My thoughts: Maybe Casey had to spend more than 12 hours alone with her daughter, something she never really had to do. She was tired, overwhelmed, and angry; maybe Caylee had too many diapers to change, asked for too many juices, cried too much, and Casey shook her out of frustration. Or she put her in the backyard to play and then went inside and watched a movie, did her nails, ate some lunch, whatever. Then, after 4 hours, she goes out to check and Caylee has died. She doesn’t know exactly when, so she again can’t report it to paramedics, it would all lead to her being negligent. And for someone that really looks like they cared about what people thought of them, there was no way in her mind she could let anyone see her as a bad mother. (Of course that was then, I think she’s beyond that, caught up in all of her lies now. But she is still trying to come off as a decent parent. She could have just said that Zanny was a new sitter, a first time sitter… but that might have made people question why she’d leave the baby with a stranger. In her mind it was better to say she had known her for “years”).
Either way, I don’t think it was intentional, nothing sensational and twisted. Just a mom that wasn’t good at being a full-time mom, who was more wrapped up in herself than with slowing down her lifestyle to take care of her child. Yes she is a thief and a liar, and now she’s doing damage control. (Maybe just in her own mind) Maybe she doesn’t feel guilty because she feels that it is her mother’s fault for not being able to babysit that one time, her friends fault that they couldn’t help that one time…anyone and everyones fault because she just needed a break (from her break I guess). She’s managed to justify it to herself, and now will do her best to get out of jail. Period. That’s all that is on her mind.
Hypothetically, of course.
I think when this is all over, Casey’s defense will be “Tt was an accident.” I honestly believe Caylee is gone, and I honestly believe it was no accident. What do you expect her to say when it all comes falling down? She would have freaked out if she accidently hurt her daughter, and wouldn’t have been able to carry on as usual..This is no accident.
Rainyday–Iagree with most of your comments.Ialso wondered where Casey was spending her time when she was suppose to be working. It is hard to imagine a mother could intentionally kill her child, but if your right about the cell phones and gas cans,it sounds so thought out. Had it been an accident it seems she would have done things in a panic. As much as I don’t care for the family I don’t think they are involved.
Hello cadaver-dogs,
one thing is clear already, 4 weeks into the investigation: your (!) jobless-silly-stupid Casey-twen is clever enough to hold the whole nation as a puppet on a string. For longer than an entire month already.
No wonder the psychics kick in now as final anchor! Good police-work in Flori-DADA. Compliment!
Maybe O.J. has put his dirty gloves into this…? Let´s suspect the late Mrs. Ramsey. Deceased as she is, we could simply blame it on her, can´t we? Out of routine, so to speak!As godfearing citizens we have the right to get a victim. Common, let´s produce our own! Ready “Moma”…?
PS:
I wonder: how many babies might have died in Darfur, since Caylee’s missing? 2000…? 3000…?
You’re retarded JB. Nothing you say makes any sense, but I’m sure you get a kick out of seeing your laughable, online nonsense. Now..on with some real comments anyone?
This JB needs to get a life and quit harassing the bloggers here…I agree, why don’t you talk some sense?
MOMARosa! It may seem to be out of context, but it isn´t. Could you tell me your weight, please? I’ll tell why – then.
Another point: it´s broad daylight everywhere in USA this very moment. How come you got the time to sniff in your neighbours underwear? Me…? I´m trying hard to get (one of) the best educations available for money in this country. Beyond that, right now I´m “breaking the summer”, got that?
PS
maybe you´ll give me further data on your (social)background. If you´re serious I´ll tell you what this is all about. No, not kidding!
People, it’s best if you just ignore J.B.
Major break in the case? Good news in the case of the missing toddler? Caylee Anthony is free on bail. “She remains to be a person of interest”, says Police Commissioner Sam McCrane of Orlando, “don´t find the child-neglect”. The surprising turn in the case came only hours after Zenaida Gonzales was stopped and taken into custody at a small border in ‘San José del Cabo’, about 20 miles north-east of Tijuana.
Police gave no further comment. The Anthony family plan a press conference later today. “Yes, we have to tell you something”, smiled Cindy Anthony, holding hands with her husband and son Lee. There is nothi
sorry folks must rush to the TV
People stop feeding the troll a.k.a JB.
the mexican stations have it..
“FinallyTruth”, where did you find that lastest information? I looked on MyFoxOrlando and didn’t see anything. Since I live on the west coast, our news hasn’t said anything about Casey getting out of jail. Please provide a web address if you can.
Und kleines Mädchen bleibt verschwunden.
Macheath worked alone, as did Casey (if indeed she did perhaps involve herself in something nefarious). She is the epitome of narcissistic sociopaths the world over; all hidden behind her affable smile. However, not all sociopaths commit murder, and her psychological profile does not necessarily implicate her.
She has been referred to over and over as a “pathological liar”; even just using that specific terminology implies that her lying is simply above and beyond the norm, that is to say, that “normal” people lie to a certain extent, but not to the degree that she does. Bring one person to me that has never told a lie, and I will shine their halo for them myself.
So, what this has all become is a public trial based on the “lies” told by Casey and her parents. If lying was enough to prove guilt- we could forgo the traditional court proceedings and remand ourselves over to the authorities to be committed for a multitude of crimes.
When you are a child, you are taught not to lie, then as you grow into adulthood you are told that lying is only inappropriate in certain cases. “White” lies are acceptable; if not desirable, if they are meant to “protect” feelings/people/etc. Who draws that invisible line in the sand? Is it when lies hide morally repugnant behavior? No, not necessarily. Is it criminal behavior? Not in all cases. What is criminal is subject to location, and culture.
So what this is, is mass frustration. The “people” want to know what happened, either so that they may pat themselves on the back for correctly guessing the outcome; or so that they can direct their grief or anger towards the appropriate parties. It is the unknown that frustrates people so, it is indeed the shadow that we want to pour light into. We NEED to KNOW. Whether or not people actually feel for Casey, her parents, grandparents, extended family and friends, and even little Caylee herself, is almost irrelevant. Once a question has been asked, how easy is it to walk away without an answer? And if we assume that someone else has this coveted information, does that not fill us with spite and jealousy? I believe so.
LOL “about 20 miles north-east of Tijuana”. That would be INSIDE US borders. Btw: San José del Cabo is located at the SOUTH end of the Baja California peninsula. Nice, but study a little geography before you try to fool people
LOL “bout 20 miles north-east of Tijuana”. That would be inside US borders. And btw: San José del Cabo is located at the SOUTH end of the Baja California peninsula. Study your geography before you try to fool people.
CHAPEAU, Madame…!!!
CHAPEAU, Madame “Clo-die”…
I think that the mother left Caylee in the car and she died from the heat and now she doesn’t know how to come clean since so much time has elapsed.
MG..How right you are..Let’s stop feeding this troll. But I do have to say, I’m getting quite a laugh! Now..what’s this new news?
Okay JB…let’s call a truce. Your comments are causing others to attack you, and I’m guilty of it too. I guess I’m having my fun as well, so let’s all stop. By the way..I’m not overweight! I’m teenee tiny! Don’t let the name fool you.
Judy, wouldn’t someone have seen Caylee in the car? Like a roommate or friend? Anything may be, but I just wonder how it happened without anyone noticing.
Il ne faut pas chercher midi à quatorze heures- it is incomprehensible to some to do anything but
“And the small girl remains disappeared” #307; For those of you who are wondering what the German translates to.
S&S to the rescue! I couldn’t help myself- I came back to see if people were playing nice here now. (Which, of course- they are not) When I read that I was going to translate (I live in Germany)- but you beat me to it! Every day that goes by this just gets sadder, and harder. I hope for everyone’s sake that this all comes to an end soon.
I think the baby either drowned or was left in the car and died. I think Casey was very smart to let time go by. The trail got cold. And the Grandmother stating an old pizza smells like decomposition? Utter BS. The meats and everything on a pizza are cooked. It’s not like raw meat that’s left out. Furthermore, a pizza in a car left in these temperatures, for weeks, would be totally dried out. I can’t believe she says leave a pizza in a car and see how it smells. She knows. Truth will come out soon. Too bad Caylees mom and grandmother are leaving her in a hole somewhere where that little baby can’t rest….
Hi Schatz…I don’t live in Germany now, but I lived in Zirndorf in 1984-86. I still love the language, but I’m rusty! I’m also hoping we are all going to get along now! Have there been any new details? I haven’t turned the TV on lately.
Cloudy-Day, hello to you,
I do not want to adorn myself with your feathers, but I do subscribe to wide parts of your social diagnosis of the publics reaction to this case.
I wish you had elaborated on the “mass frustration” part, though. I do not agree this is a “mass frustration” for the whole society. There are lots of people not beng interested in this case, or those who step aside, knowing a tragedy like this does not deserve disrespectful attacks and accusations.
If we devide this society roughly into four social groups, we find confirmed it is the lowest quarter being interested in drama and blood the most. There are many obvious reasons for this of course, but what do you think? Why people in this blog seem to be so unable to feel empathy with the unfortunate Anthony family? Where do all this heartless accusations stem from? Why all this social ice? Why here, in a country where Jesus is present in any second sentence? What is it, you think, made this people so numb, heartless, mindless and cruel, with empathy, if any, only for the baby-pattern?
After two years in rural, central black Africa, among those of the lower quarter of their society such ruthless behaviour – against people of the own tribe, color and religion especially – was completely non-existent. Nobody was socially isolated or excluded, when in need or trouble, serious problems included.
Comparing USA with Africa is possibly the wrong approach – Africa was just a counter-example worth mentioning – but still, what do you think is the main! reason for America´s social frost, especially among the more unfortunate parts of this society?
I observe and also take part in other blogs on the same subject. None of them cmes close being that shameless (imagine: even ABSOLUTELY ridicolous incest and child-pornography accusations were posted here, with agreeing response > “interesting idea, polo23″ etc.)and offensive, with literally everybody agreeing the Anthonies are develish.
But again: these blog contain a much higher degree of intellectual input.
Does that answer my question “why”? Why is the less educated part of society as cold and shameless as presented here in basically every single post with only very limited exceptions?
PS
Look at post #312. One example of many. As if this “Judy” would simply ignore what you have said. Just on her narrow-minded, self-righteous ego-trip, accusing a young mother of child-neglect with deadly outcome.
It is not – I don´t need to tell you, “Cloudy”, sorry – that this couldn´t have happened, theoretically (anything can happen at all times, even kids and my dog know), but that is not the point. The self-righteousness, the arrogance how such statements are presented at a point in time, when nobody has the slightest clue, is TRUELY shocking to me. Frankly? I`m not scared of isolated posts of such (obviously simple)characters. What scares me though is the fact that they are not the exception, but the rule. I have to say this: I´ve never read blog-entries as shameless, heartless and cold as here.
Best of all: Sunday
JB
I believe your accusations that Americans have so little empathy (and trust me, there is no specific class of people that fit into this very narrow-minded category as people are individuals regardless of what social class they fall into and lack of empathy and compasstion run the gamut in ALL social classes) in this case might have much to do with the fact that so far, the Anthony’s really have not given the American public any logical reason TO give that to them. The truth shall set us all free. am I correct? So far, I have to agree here that the Anthony’s are far from believeable individuals. Give me one statement they have made public so far that doesn’t have inconsistencies or outright fallacies to it and I will eat my words.
Grüß Gott S&S!!! I’m in Nürnberg- I knew there was a reason we were some of the more level headed ones
The purpose of the blog is not to bicker like we are children, but I think everyone in this blog makes a good point. This blog is a way for us to discuss Caylee. I think Lee, George and Cindy should all be arrested for withholding eveidence. The heat need to be turned up on them.
The purpose of this blog is for us to discuss Caylee not to bicker like we are children, but I think everyone in this blog has made some good points. I think Lee, George and Cindy should all be arrested for withholding evidence. The heat needs to be turned up on them!!!
I agree they should lock up the Anthony’s for withholding information. I dont know if they could..depends on the laws in Florida.
Finallytruth? – I looked all over the internet for any new breaks in the case. I could not find anything.
I know you were watching something on TV about it. Does that channel have a web link?
Casey told her parents that “Caylee is close”.
Right there, I think might say something.
Was there any luck in searching the lakes?
I cant help but to think by that statement Casey has buried her somewhere…”close”.
Yes, Leigh, you are right..This shouldn’t be a forum for bickering..Let’s get back on track.
Schatz..You are very close to where I was! Nurnberg is a nice place from what I remember. Are you German or American?
Duke,
I assume that name represents something pretty much north in Carolina, as well as pretty much north in the social tableau.
Your post, excuse me, stands for what…?
I followed the case from the very beginning. Not for a certain reason, not for the Anthonies and certainly not because a “sweet-sweet angle” was involved, reads missing. Sheer concidence. I might not be on the ultimate level, but I have a good insight into the case. I´ve seen all the videos, heard some pundits, read what has been printed and take part in Caylee-blogs, once I’d got infected!
I do not agree, that this family – father, Ma Cindy and Bro/Son Lee – comes across as crooks or even liars. If you insist they did, quote them (like you learned at Duke). Nobody can fight a valid point. “CloudyDays” confirmed the common knowledge, that everybody lies Every day. Lots of times.
I am not aware father-mother-brother have lied only a single time,…and being caught!Suspicion alone, especially from bystanders, will not convince me. I await examples. List their lies, Duky-Duke. Nevertheless, I tell you already now that no possible lie you might dig out, a lie from a father/mother meant to protect her daughter, makes me believe that you have a right to call them not trustworthy.
Sorry…?? Did I get this right? You really argued, quote: “…the Anthony´s really have not given the American public any lgical reason to…” end-quote
In most other blogs this sentence could stand for itself. Not here! OK, I ask you: what the god-damn f**king hell the public has to expect from the Anthony´s. They owe them nothing,that is NO THING Duke, that is what they owe them. In parts it feels as if you were kidding me.
By the way, regarding the various types and levels of lying, including lying to police or at trial and the moral-quality of it: in much of Europe´s law (France, Germany, Italy, to mention only three of many!)lying at court/police is neither a crime nor a misdemeanor. Lying, therefore, is simply “allowed”, for the lack of a better word. Different sources or historical routes of the law. In other words: even if the Anthony´s were lying – as you say without offering a proof – nobody w/c/ould touch them under most European laws, leave alone Euro-morals. I said it and say it again: even if they were lying, as long as it were for the protection of their own blood and without putting her grand-daughter in harms way, it´s 200% fine with me.
Know what? You would do the VERY same. Everybody would. Blood is thicker than a lawbook.
I will admit that mother Cindy likes to hear herself talk. So what? If I were her lawyer I would advise her to stop doing that – the press is the last to be thankful for that service.
That much about the “three-at-home”.
I had lots of arguments in defense of Casey too, but neither time nor place is conveneant right now.
Still, my point and critic towards most participants in this blog is not at all about the credibility of Casey-girl (it seems you want to forget that she’s ndeed a youngster herself. Were you an adult that age? I wasn´t!), if she lied, doesn´t speak to help the investigation or if she has neglected her child or not. Like everybody, I, of course, have an opinion about Casey too – that is unavoidable if one follows a case that close.
My critics, my rage, my emotional outbursts against “White Trash”, as I see them, are fed by posters like,… just one!! example of more than 50 here, this “Dee-character” (#319). Quote: “…the baby either drowned or was left in the car and died”.
OK, I do not want to fall into another monologue-of-rage and therefore simply say: this (statement and person)is CLEARLY “White Trash” and such a person deserves nothing but being “knocked over”, to say it with Grandpa Anthony.
According to Local6 in Florida, Casey will be released on bond on Sunday. According to the source, bountyhunters will be posting her bond and taking her to a “safe house”.
Hopeful…I thought the same thing from the start when Casey said Caylee is close. I believe she’s close too, but not alive. How does she know she’s close? Who told her that? If the “kidnappers” told her so, why wouldn’t she contact the police so they can bring her daughter to safety? That was a weird statement, I agree.
JB, if you are so intelligent and educated, why is your spelling so awful? You are a very lonely and angry individual. You don’t even realize you how pathetic you appear. You have no reason to put down others here, unless of course it is to build yourself up, in your own eyes. Insulting others is the only way you gain self-confidence. Sad. (and I am not American) However, I would rather be White Trash than you.
Phew. The largest majority of the blogs I’ve read on the internet regarding this case varies only in how many of the Anthony family members were/are involved in the Caylee Anthony murder/accident cover-up. Makes me think no possibility exists for an “impartial” jury when/if murder charges are filed. Since my instinct reflects the majority’s opinion, I can not help but wonder about the 1 zillionth possibility – we are wrong.
What if…Casey is telling the truth. It’s been awhile, but I do remember being young, foolish and exercising poor judgment at times some “centuries” ago.
Photographs are a moment in time without a date stamp. The prosecution will not be submitting them for evidence to prove Casey was partying while supposedly looking for her daughter. So why do we so quickly believe what media can manipulate and has done in other situations before?
What if she did have a “nanny” babysitter who cared for this child (we all fell in love with the poster child) and believed she loved and deserved Caylee more than Casey? Couldn’t that explain why Casey is so calm. She believes Caylee is not the one in jeopardy, that the babysitter would not harm and would only care for Caylee. In this version of possibility, Casey is the one at risk. Her comment that all anyone cares about is Caylee could have erupted from the fact that she’s in jail and everyone, including the police, thinks she murdered her daughter or at best, covered up an accidental death. The police have made mistakes before. They are human and have their own prejudices based upon their experiences through time after time of investigations. But they could be wrong. They can’t possibly track down every person with the babysitter’s name, if that was the real name. And how thoroughly have they really tried?
What if that child was abducted and taken out of state? What if Casey was stupid enough to believe she could get her child back from the babysitter by herself over that 31 day period. And what was the non-disclosed $45,000 credit card charge on Cindy’s CC? Wire transfer by Casey to get Caylee back? If so, babysitter has funds and the child now. Silly Casey.
Finally, parents get involved. When George says the kidnapper is under surveillance, as an ex-policeman, he uses that term easily, but he and Cindy could have tired of asking for public support (they sure aren’t getting it here) and police focus to retrieve Caylee’s from the babysitter- kidnapper and bring Caylee home and hired a PI. That’s what I’d do if no one believed me and my daughter.
As I said before, logic paints a different scenario than the one above. However, I do know that when people are held under a public microscopic scrutiny, it’s rarely flattering, and that sensationalism sells.
I wrote this on 8/13 but could not find time til now to post. Events since only reinforce what I suggested above. My heart aches for this family with the hope that Caylee comes home.
Also a Mother..I’m sorry, but there are an awful lot of “what ifs.” There is too much evidence that points to the demise of Caylee. I wish it didn’t, but it does.
Also a mother: I agree none of us truly knows what happened, but the human mind naturally just has a tendency to speculate … it’s the way our minds just automatically work, either for good or for bad. That being said, I have to say I respect your ability to try to be constructive here as well as compassionate. I myself have thought about the possibility of actually being wrong and “what if’ing” the potential babysitter kidnapping theory to death. My problem with that is, if it’s honestly true, then why would Caylee ever be in “danger” as Casey originally told her mother she believed she might be? If that’s true and she tried finding her herself and really believed she could find her alone, then why would she be behaving so nonchalantly everytime we’ve ever seen her on the news? Why would all her friends have said they saw nothing abnormal or unusual about her behavior whatsoever in the time Caylee was supposedly missing or gone? It’s the whole lack of concern/emotion thing about her that gets me in this case … not the fact that maybe all the facts aren’t known (I’m sure they aren’t), that maybe we ARE all truly wrong because we’re missing something, etc. I will be the 1st one to apologize to the Anthony family (and Casey too) if I am wrong, but with the overwhelming lack of regard and feeling for her daughter (even before all of this broke the news from what we’ve heard directly from people who knew her), it’s difficult to believe she wasn’t indirectly, if not directly involved. I too don’t see Caylee as still being alive, but I would gladly admit I was wrong to still see that child alive.
After speaking to the bounty hunters that have supplied the bond money for Casey has confirmed they believe Caylee is still alive, that she has been kidnapped by drug dealers. Casey apparently owed money for meth, according to the Padilla office (bounty hunters), and when she did not produce the cash, the kidnappers fled with Caylee. You can contact the Padilla office, they are very forthecoming with information, they firmly believe they are looking for a missing child. The number is 916-558-6915. The office is in California.
to comment number 328 reguarding the photographs. Despite not having a traditional and visible date stamp etched on the image most images contain something called “meta-data”. What this means is that alot of information such as the date and time of when the image was taken is actually attatched to the image file as opposed to the image. So it is possible the procecution could try and pull the meta data from the files and use it in their case if it suffices.
Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla to the rescue! OF COURSE he (and his nephew) are willing to put up the bond, Leonard Padilla has run for the office of mayor 4 times, unsuccessfully. He refers to himself as the “common sense Mayor for Sacramento”, and you (usually) can’t BUY press like this. Well, it seems like he will. How transparent can someone be? I have little doubt that he sees this as an opportunity for Nationwide fame, and if he can get information out of Casey? Well then, he’s a shoe-in for Mayor for sure. Just think, he’ll get to spend day in and day out with her. Even if she stays mum, he can write a tell-all book. Why, 50k seems like a good investment when you look at it that way, doesn’t it?
Now, with Casey getting bond, this whole thing is starting to remind me of a bad Reality show. It’s so sad.
Thanks TheSkyisgreen for the info about the bounty hunter. I knew there had to be a reason he was doing this. GP George accused the media of only being interested in a story, look what he has now.
i cannot fathom how a mother would not call the authorities after a child went missing. All we have is the ‘what ifs’ and the ‘i think’..and although Casey’s attitude is not how any normal person would react..there might be an explanation for it.
When my daughter was in the hospital and the doctors were uncertain of her diagnosis..her father avoided the hospital and was found at the bar with his. Although he knows it was the wrong thing to do..and as much as i was upset dealing with it by myself..i do understand..because of his past..why he acted that way. I’m not making him out to sound like a bad person, he is the best man..but certain occurrences in someones life could explain their behavior. But i know if our daughter went missing..he would be irate and not seem emotionless.
We don’t know her whole life, nor what bad could have happened. Is she seeing a psychiatrist or has she seen one since she’s been in jail to determine her mental status? If they would get the results from that, then maybe they would have a better understanding of why she’s acting the way she is. Then again, maybe she wouldn’t even talk to a psychiatrist.
Maybe the ‘bounty hunter’ will help her. He has a ‘high profile’ and for someone of that status, maybe some how in Casey’s head it will make her feel superior.
Sometimes I do wonder if maybe this is all to humiliate the LE. She’s been wanting out to go search for her, maybe she just wants to have a case against the LE. People sue for the most absurd things.
but if she ’searched’ for her the whole month before, i would be extremely suspicious if she did find her now.
Does anyone know why her father never tried to get hired on in Florida. With his experience before, you would think that he would have a good chance…why choose to do security? I wouldn’t think that a security job would pay more.
I do hope they find Caylee alive and well, but unfortunately it does not seem that way.
I’m amused…!
How come all of you incest/porn/nonsense-theorizers get so silent suddenly?
“Also-a-mother”: a relief to read your considered thoughts. I knew there is more than gun-slingers here.
“Angela”: at least you believed I am an American, didn´t you? Ha—–ha—–ha!!!
Building myself up in an anonymous blog? How does that work?
And you, what about you and your White-Trash family and friends, do you gain self-confidence from insulting an innocent (!) family, just because you´re unable to second-guess, just because you´re thirsty for blood?
You do not have the capacity for an educated guess, Angela, in rather complicated case like this.
“Also-a-mother” has another fine thought, one not being introduced into this discussion so far: how to get an independant, open-minded jury, if this case goes to trial fo whatever reason? One is left with the hope that the jury-selection on Casey´s side focusses on excluding “White Trash” as much as possible. What they “think”, we read here every single day.
CDN…I agree, it’s like a circus act now. I’m not really interested in the coverage of Casey being released and everything that goes with it. Aren’t we looking for a little girl? Shouldn’t the story be more about the search, whether she is dead or alive. And, someone tell me this. WHY can’t authorities FORCE Casey to talk if they are sure she knows something? I think it’s a joke that we are sitting around waiting for the Queen to speak. Someone needs to instill a little fear into her big head and get her talking. Time just keeps ticking away and I think that it’s her plan. Ridiculous.
JB. I was hoping your nasty comments were over! Bad boy, it’s time to be nice.
White trash is a derogatory term targeted at white people with low social status, poor prospects and or low levels of education. To call someone white trash is to accuse a white person of being “economically, educationally and culturally bankrupt”. So…if you aren’t white, totally disregard and ignor the insulting remarks on this forum. If you are white, totally disregard and ignor the insulting remarks on this public forum.
I do think Caylee is deceased, nothing hurts my heart more than to actually come to the conclusion that people in the world (seeming to be perfect parent(s) on the outside) could hurt another, especially your own. I never thought of the inscest theory, and the left in the car theory. I saw a case on the “left in the car” and this lady was this big hospital director and yet she forgot her baby in the car, yet she could direct a hospital!! Unbelievable. I don’t think Casey left her baby in the car, and I don’t think she hurt her because she was a victim to incest. I really wonder about the boyfriend is my theory! It seems to happen more than us woman are aware of!
Melanie, I too am not one to believe these stories about leaving your kid in the car. How convenient. These people know there is no proof and Hey, maybe, just maybe they forgot. BS. Let’s just say Casey did. Where is her sadness, fear, remorse, and plain shock? That is why I believe whatever happened to Caylee was intentional.
Quote: “USA-citizen” (#339)
“White trash is a derogatory term targeted at white people with low social status, poor prospects and or low levels of education”
…often living in a trailor park (with and without wheels), you forgot!
Do the rednecks fall under “Whities” or are they a group of their own?
“Sister Rose Parks: you do not really think I´m a bad boy, don´t you? If it had been for me, you never ‘had to ride in the back of the bus no more’. Got it…?
Hello cadaver-dogs,
just took a look back into the beginnings of this blog, one that basically started with my arrival (#163).
Still, it´s just a mediocre success so far. True, I got rid of most ridicolous molesters already, but it´s the same story than with the mythological MEDUSA. You hack of the head of Sam…, and some Linda appears. Her head is down and one Debbie appears. She isn´t really cold and Angelas, Lissis and Melanies appear…
Nobody says fighting for justice is easy, but fighting alone against this army of trailors, is a difficult job. Most of all “pro bono”. U2 could assist me. I´m about to lose my power.
Listen to this, ‘medusan’ cadaver-dogs of the W.T.-breed:
All the world knows, I mean KNOWS!, that Michael ‘Chemical Ali’ Phelps is doped*, won his medals under the influence of drugs. But…, did we accuse him? Yet? Do we accuse him at a point when methods to detect his foul play are not officially introduced?
No, we don´t!
Isn´t that a lesson for you to stop accusing the Anthony-family of foul play, at a time, when nobody, I mean nobody knows of anybody´s involvent in foul play yet?
* it is expected that a French lab is in the final stages to proof Phelps’ (and other US athlets)especially-nasty gen-doping (to shorten the natural phases of relaxation). Expect his medals to be worth “rien” only a few weeks or month after the Olympics.
Yes, JB..back of the bus or not, you’re not too nice here…Be good now, Momma is watching you!!
“Sister Rose”
A very-very-very deep inner feeling tells me, that we are not far from a long-lasting friendship. You, and me, I mean!
And friends, as you know, care for each other, defend each other.
Imagne: you, George Anthony and me at the same BBQ, discussing this case in retrospect. Don´t you think we had lots of fun (leave alone I’m vegetarian)?
My heart goes out to these grandparents….of course Cindy is controlling, that is what happens when a teenager gives birth to a child and continues to live with her parents..someone HAS to be in control. These people are between a rock and a hard place, wanting to find their granchild, wanting to believe their daughter, wanting the media’s help, hating the media’s infringement. Hope they find Caylee soon.
“MIMIDUV” – you make me smile!
JB is a racist who just loves to hear himself talk and antagonize others!
I was just about to say that the bloodhound-fraction get surprisingly silent…
“Mimiduv” – you (at least) understood how I meant the smile, didn´t you? I respect your comments- they made me smile!
AZ: with or (already) without wheels? The trailor…?
You´re wrong when thinking I dislike “White Trash”. I just hate what they say about innocent families who need support, no cadaver-dogs sniffing their privacy.
Today about 40% post`s less (counted from midnight to 2pm) compared to yesterday.
White Trash is withdrawing!
Still, I´m always on alert to cut-off the next head of Medusa, showing up here.
Don´t worry – I get this forum civilized!
Right Rose? We´re a team still?
JB…at team player, I doubt it. BTW, if you’re getting the best education money can buy, you should get a second or third job because your money isn’t paying for much. Your typing is full of errors and you barely know how to spell.
Don´t be so picky – you must see the big picture.
Job…? What are you talking about? Knights don´t work – they fight. And own!
Apropos education – you´re reading my old posts? Interested in me?
How many languages do you speak, Arizona-man?
More than three? Admit it – just the US-standard of a single one.
Was that mistake-free enough for you? And why should I be better than your own president? Hihihihi…!
Interested in you…NO, sorry, H-E-L-L NO. I have been posting here since Monday. I have had the pleasure of getting to know you over the past several days, unfortunately. You continuously take the spotlight off of Caylee only to put it on yourself. Sad and shameful.
Just for your information, I am not one of the “white-trash” people you keep talking about. I have not speculated on any theories, nor do I care to. I have only expressed concern for the Anthony family and, of course, backlashed at you. That last part, simply because it’s fun to watch what you will say next.
Got your report! OK, I´m going to make an exception. For now you are excused. I’ll put you on the waiting list. Continue to obey and you might get a chance to be part of the gang.
Are you straight?
Are you asking me if I am gay? Just because I kissed one girl 10 years ago would not constitute me being gay. Hah, though you off, you thought I was a guy. Sorry, JB, but you are going up againgst a highly intellectual woman. Sorry to disappoint you. Is this “gang” headed by you or are you just the VP?
The blog on MyFoxOrlando is stating that searchers located 2 backpacks, a pair of blue jeans (size 3/5) and a tank top out at Blanchard Park. Wonder what is going to come from this new find if it is true. I am weary to believe something from people that are not directly or actively involved but that is just me. Everyone can form their own opinion.
I do not want to go into specifics – you know what I mean – but kissing a girl, absolutely qualifies you being gay, not to forget this was only your first confession. Being “highly
intellectual” is hardly an excuse.
The gang…? Sorry, not in public. You have seen “Eyes wide shut”, haven´t you? Did you understand the plot? In order to pass our test, you have to explain! I am the leader, you got that right!
PS
If you´re the intelletual you say you are, I wonder what hinders you to be on my side? I don´t see no plausible reason. Maybe you´re less intellectual than you think?
…and in China a 20-kg bag of rice just fell.
So what…?
Where´s the connection between a tank-top and the war on the Anthony´s?
Maybe you are just feeding MEDUSA, Miss AZ…?
I´m sharpening my sword, ready to RE!-act!
Im going to give you some space now. Don´t let there be complaints, when I return! Leave the Anthony´s in peace. They are as innocent as I am (or “Sister Rose” and my latest buddy AZ).
Be kind!
JB…MomaR here. You are still making me laugh with your silliness and off the wall takes. I promise to laugh at you if you promise to keep it clean, kind, and intelligent. See, not everyone understands you like your Moma, (not that I really understand you, haha, but I at least try to break down the barrier with kindness). You won’t win these kind people over when you insult them, okay? Let’s get along..Doesn’t that always feel better? Now, say you’re sorry young man!
The backpack thing has me worried. George said Caylee and Casey were wearing backpacks the last time he saw them….June 16, when they left the house.
Sorry, I have not seen “Eyes Wide Shut”, I am not big on wasting my time sitting around watching movies or TV. As a 28 year-old wife and mother of two and a full-time student, I am surprised I have been on the computer as much as I have been this past week.
Being on anyone’s side…I am on Caylee’s side. Although, I do agree with you that people should not speculate with absurd ideas about incest (especially based on her last name) and all the other bs ideas people seem to have came up with. The people with those crazy ideas (the ones you call white trash), have some wild imaginations.
Additionally, about the two backpacks, pants and top, I did not proclaim there was a connection between anything. I was just putting the info out there. Maybe there is no connection whatsoever between the clothing and the Anthony’s.
Are you in the Florida area?
Me? No, I am in Canada
CDN, I was actually asking JB but that’s ok. WOW, I cannot believe this story is reaching the hearts of people so far away. Amazing!
Where is everyone? This blog has lost its flare!
Caylee’s body was never in the back yard. George set the gas cans down to open the storage shed and placed the gas cans inside. The dogs hit on the spot in the yard where the gas cans were placed, then they hit on the gas cans in the shed. WHY? Caylee’s decompossing body was in the trunk with the gas cans. Possibly, the pool ladder was attached back on the pool because Casey cleaned off the smell in the pool water.
SSUMM, where did you get the info that Caylee’s body was not in the backyard? I am not dicounting your comments, I just want to read up on this new information. Thanks.
I did not read this information anywhere … it just makes sense. I think that is the reason the dogs had a “hit” in the backyard .. . not because the body was there. I don’t think the body was ever in the backyard … so many people have this idea from the first post to the last, and took off and ran with this idea. And again, the ladder .. I think the ladder was down so Casey could “rinse off”.
I have followed this case from the beginning, and as a mother of two toddlers, it breaks my heart. I think I may have to step away for awhile, because for the last 2 or 3 days whenever I think of Caylee, or read updates on the case, I feel physically sick. It’s getting worse. I guess I just can’t deal with the tragedy of it.
I have been following this story since it came out and I have done research on the Nanny and there are alot of Zeinda’s that haven’t been even checked out and probably won’t check out. There hasn’t been an Amber Alert and thats not good. I do believe this child was handed off to someone that wasn’t a good person and for what reason it is probably a bad one. I pray Caylee comes home soon alive and well…God Bless the Anthony Family….
I don’t understand how certain people can come on and call others white trash for having an opinion. White trash or not, in AMERICA we have a right to free speech and opinions. Yes, that gives certain jerks the right to show their backsides and not make any sense as they insult. Caylee is what the blog is about. Some people, namely one, is making it about themselves and the rest are letting him have the spotlight. If Caylee is indeed alive, I pray that they find her. If Casey has info, I pray she disclose it. I have little ones, I TOTALLY understand that there are several children missing, AND dying everywhere, but this little girl has been thrust into the limelight, SHE is what this site is about. No matter who is in the wrong, she is what truely matters. But I feel that as we post our feelings on here, we should not be insulted. In the end I hope we just find HER!
SSUMM says:
“Caylee’s body was never in the back yard”
AZ asks:
“SSUMM, where did you get the info that Caylee’s body was not in the backyard? I am not dicounting your comments, I just want to read up on this new information”.
SSUMM answers:
“I did not read this information anywhere … it just makes sense.”
JB says:
Momma (Rose) help me!
Grief is as individual as a fingerprint and as unique as each one of us is both publicly and privately. Mourning is what we do externally. Grief is what we feel inside.
Public “anticipatory mourning” such as this (namely blogs and the like), has been an American tradition for centuries. This is not an era where people know every neighbor, nor is it one where people typically know every merchant they do business with. We have become disconnected socially, with the advent of the internet some of us now shop, socialize, recreate, pay our bills, and find our educations online. We no longer have our children do research for a school project solely in a public library, we no longer all have a subscription to the same newspaper, we don’t bake pies and take them to our new neighbors. We still seek community, however, not in the physical world as we have for centuries before, but in this virtual one.
It is with cases like this that we find ourselves enraptured, even with some, obsessed. It isn’t because of the victims, or in spite of them; it is because we can project our own fear of mortality, and injustice onto them. It is because we have been saturated with the face of a child like Caylee, through the photographs, through the videos, and of her family, home, neighborhood, that we as strangers can feel that we know her enough to mourn her. Now that we have virtually been inside of her bedroom, and been thrust into private moments with her reading her favorite book, we feel connected. That connection is what fuels debates, public outcry, even true physical reactions such as crying, inability to sleep, and even nausea.
It is the media’s fault that the public attaches itself to a single child such as this, and not the thousands of children being killed in war, the thousands of children dying from starvation, or disease. The public cannot establish a connection with “those” children, in the way they can with “this” child, keep in mind I chose my words carefully and specifically here; those vs. this.
There is a reason that charities created programs in which the individual donating receives a photograph and biography of the child they sponsor. Do we know that every photograph is of the actual child receiving care? No, we don’t, and it’s actually quite irrelevant. To hold a photograph in your hand, and to look at a face, into someone’s eyes, to know their favorite color- it invokes feelings and a bond that simply is not easily formed without these objects. Does it mean that we, as a society do not care about the other children in that same village? Again, not necessarily. It simply means that humans tend to seek out a personal connection, and that connection is valuable in many different ways.
My observations are here to convey a simple truth; that a majority of the people that feel pain for Caylee Anthony, and not the same degree for other suffering, missing, or murdered children; do so through no fault of their own. The media has created a bond that we can easily transfer our own personal feelings towards our children, our parents, the justice system, and mortality to. Look back over the many posts that include phrases like, “I look at my own children”, “I have a child that looks like Caylee”, “I am a mother/grandmother myself”, and ask if it is not the deep seeded fear that something could happen to our own loved ones, that subconsciously spurs us to find the answers, and the conclusions we do so in forums like this.
I also ask if there isn’t a small bit of comfort that comes from knowing that “we” are not the bad parents/ grandparents that we perceive the Anthony’s to be? That we rationalize that the spankings we gave, or the yelling we do, does not make us bad parents, because we can point a finger to what we believe are people we are better than? There are a lot of comments that begin with “I never..” or “I would have..”, it speaks to the fact that we do indeed place ourselves in shoes we have never walked in, and then happily step back into our own.
Yes, this forum was established to speak about the Anthony case, and whether or not every single post is centered around our theories of Caylee’s demise, or location; does not mean that they don’t belong here. (Am I the only person that noticed that quite a few posts have been deleted in the past 48 hours?)
In a world in which children are subject to the results of incomprehensible acts, namely: starvation, abuse, war, abandonment, disease, and murder; the rituals we follow, including public mourning; provide us with a vehicle for dealing with forces beyond our control. We explore, and analyze, searching for the lessons we must learn to protect our own psyche. We become culturally aware of taboos and tune our moral compasses. We all become psychologists, forensic analysts, mothers, grandparents, police officers, murderers. We have the luxury of slipping in and out of every role. Viewing the situation from every angle, that is- the angles we’ve been privy to. If you’ve seen the patterns on four sides of a cube, does that really mean that you can determine what are on the other two? Absolutely not.
We meet here to make sense of the senseless. To be a part of something.
It will be interesting to see what develops when Casey is released on bond. I’m sure they will have to have security on hand because there are going to be people who are going to want to come after her for what seems VERY POSSIBLE that she harmed her own child. Like I said, I wish the media wasn’t so focused on this event. Instead, maybe officials could form an intense search like they did in Ohio when the cop (Bobby Cutts)killed his pregnant girlfriend and she was missing. Let Casey go with them..it’s possible she will take them to Caylee.
“CloudyDay” says:
Grief is as individual as a fingerprint and as unique as each one of us is both publicly and privately. Mourning is what we do externally. Grief is what we feel inside.
I wonder:
If this were true (I believe there are universal patterns of grief) why your hypothesis! was rejected by proscecution and most legal experts in the Scott Peterson case?
Only now – not after my recent comment – I´ve read your convincing analysis in full.
You´re a very wise woman. There isn´t much anything could add – me the least!
Until a major! break, I step back and can say that I am finally happy I took part in this blog.
No surprise this considered, educated and sovereign essay came from France, not America.
Thank you “SunnyDay”!!!
please read: There isn´t much anyBODY could (and possibly should)add.
I too believe that there are universal patterns of grief; just as there are universal patterns in fingerprints, but those are generalities. I was trying to simply differentiate between the terms grief and mourning. Grief is an emotional state, and mourning is the actions that we take.
Not all murderers mourn their victims, yet some of them do; not all innocents grieve for their losses, but most of them do, and vice-versa.
I was not implying that a stoic front and apparent lack of mourning either proves, or disproves a lack of grief. I am not implying that outward mourning proves, or disproves, internal grief.
Remember Susan Smith? Darlie Routier? Diane Downs? All of them cried, screamed, collapsed, outwardly appearing to be grieving mothers, desperate to either recover their missing children, or catch the people that killed their babies. Were they truly grieving? Nobody knows for sure, what we do know is that in the end we discovered that they all had murdered their own children.
More than 200 women kill their children in the US every year, although women commit less than 13% of all violent crimes they are responsible for about 50% of all parental murders. Three to five children a day are killed by their parents. The factors leading up to, and the causes of death are as varied as the people that commit these crimes.
People in general, expect to see a mother in tears over a missing child. Most of the time that is what we see, but like I referenced before- those tears do not prove that there is true sadness, and the lack of them does not prove otherwise.
Cloudy Day..I agree with the mourning/not mourning comments. BUT what I saw was a young girl crying in jail, but not necessarily for her child. That is what seems to take us all in the direction that she is cold. Of course, none of us know how someone is going to react to anything..it just seems very natural for a mother to cry for her missing child and make a plea to her “kidnappers” to return her safely. Just my opinion, of course.
I can’t agree more with CloudyDay’s assessment of grief and why so many have come here. I for one can say that’s why I originally came.
Oh … and for the record, based on reading your previous posts and your apparent all-out hatred of most Americans (or so it seems here), I just KNEW you were French. Can I call them or what?
I can’t agree more with CloudyDay’s assessment of grief and why so many have come here. I for one can say that’s why I originally came.
Oh … and for the record JB, based on reading your previous posts and your apparent all-out hatred of most Americans (or so it seems here), I just KNEW you were French. It seems you yourself just verified my very early speculation. Thank you, lad!
Sorry … the last part of my post was for JB … it updated too quickly and I noticed I’d accidentally omitted it.
Wow. Extremely well said Cloudy Day
Hi JB, I see you are still here keeping the peace…hahahaha
JB and everyone, I came across a speech reversal video on YouTube yesterday. In the video, the “scientists” take recorded conversations and reverse the communications to de-code (if you will) hidden subconcious messages. I was weirded out by the video and I was just wondering if anyone had ever heard of this technique or if there is any truth to speech reversals? Any thoughts?
Here is a link to the YouTube video for those interested in viewing it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkvsZ5cSZCo
I heard the roommate say that Casey talked to her parents while she stayed there. She “pretended” to ask her Mom how Caylee was doing, etc. So let’s see. She picks up the phone and plays games as if someone is on the other line. She tells her boyfriend Caylee is with her parents, and she tells her parents she is with the babysitter. Do any of you really think she is innocent?
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No. I don’t for a second believe she’s innocent. My biggest fear now (aside of imagining what little Caylee might have gone through if she did in fact die at the hands of her own mother, which brings tears to my eyes) is that somehow the prosecution won’t have enough real evidence to convict her and she gets off on a technicality. Anyone else feel this way?
pheeeeeeeew…!!!
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Duke,
seems you´re still obsessed with me. I take it as a compliment – thanx!
No, I am not French, nor, AZ, writing from the “retirement-paradise”.
Ask “Momma”, she knows me!
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Regarding you and “SunnyDay’s” lecture. Are you sure you did fully comprehend what she said and meant?
For your better understanding let me make sure that you are very mistaken thinking I hate America or all Americans. Yes, there´s a lot I do not agree with, you bet, namely from the (actual) political arena.
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Your aggressive wars for oil (leaving 100-thousands of Caylee Anthonys behind). Your complete disregard of inviromental issues. Your extreme waste of energy. Your gun-laws. Your bigot Church-TV and the multi-million Dollar “stadium-healers”. Your double-morals when it comes to sexuality.Your inability to second-guess or to question yourself and your sandpoints. The executions of Che Guevara and Allende to name just two. Waco. Peltier. The forever unforgettable and unforgivable “Wounded Knee” massacre, to me one of the most shameful events in history. You name it!
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Then there are the “White-Trash-Rednecks’” with their dangerous and simplified black’n'white vision of the world and how it works!
On the other side of the fence are all this most-most wonderful and talented musicians, actors, authors, filmmakers and other incredible artists in many other fields – not many countries can compete. Your landscapes range from gorgeous to an unbelievable beauty. Last and certainly not least there are all this many-many Americans being really nice, friendly and helpful.
My frustrations are about “White Trash” in any country, any culture – not just yours. Still, I feel (and know, to tell the truth) that this portion of any society is higher in USA than, for example, Europe, where I come from and live.
Momma, are you with me? I’m a good boy – tell them I am!
Why 4 installments?
Of course I posted the complete text as one,…first!
Didn´t go through! I tried again. The same! Again and again and again. No way!
I got suspicious! Maybe finally no “freedm of speech”?
I waited an hour, tried again! Nothing. Tried another 4,5,6 times. The very same, no success!
I took about all the bad words (23 in total) and hit the “send-button” another time. You know the answer…
I changed my name (”Gregg” and “D´s Tears” was also me) and…, wooow, it worked, that post went through!
So I got a first-hand idea on “freedom of speech” in USA. Still, I wasn´t ready to give up, thought about other possibilities.
Finally I got it! Why being critical in one go, if one can deliver in four parts?
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I bet more posts of the “D-kind” (#390) will appear sooner or later. I won´t respond any longer to this. For those who “know me”: picture me jumping up and down in my chair, pulling my cat´s ears, yelling out of the open window (”WT eat sh*t” and other obscenities) and complaining to my diary how bad this world really is.
Momma – cool me down, please! Nobody but you knows how much I suffer on the other side of the Atlantic!
JB..In some twisted way, I understand what you are trying to get across, BUT you see, it’s the way you are saying it that is offending this nice crowd of fellow human beings. You see, using the term “White Trash” is not going to win you over here. I believe you have good intentions, but you are allowing yourself to come under attack because of how you are relaying your feelings. Sure, there are people out there that should live with higher standards..sure there are people out there who should be ashamed of their sexual ideas, notions, and desires. BUT, I do not think this group of folks are the ones that should be targeted. You see, although I don’t necessarily agree with all the comments about incest, etc., I have to also be opened minded enough to realize that anything could have happened. These people are merely trying to point out possibilities. This is ONE confusing case and Casey has sure sent all of our minds in a tailspin…
“AZ”, hello bookworm,
I am absolutely with you, that TV-watching – some exceptions confirm the rule – is a CLEAR waste of time. Especially you, in USA – sorry to say so – are not really lucky with the standard and quality of TV in general. I hope you didn´t mean this is valid for films too. There are lots of wonderful films and filmmakers in America, in and often outside the box-office! Put this books aside, the kids to Zenaida and off to the cinema* with your husband!
No, I am not in Florida. I am posting from Europa,…as a born European! Why did you ask? Wanna meet me (just kidding)…?
I had heard about “speech reversals” only once. That was in the context of a certain BEATLES song, supposedly with a cryptical message from Lennon. I´d forgotton about it until you mentioned that term again today.
I’ve seen that little film on youtube you referenced. Was it convincing? Not to me! As you possibly suspect, righteously so, I am rather critical, when it comes to any kind of pseudo-sciences! Still, it interested me anyway and snce the way to Wikipedia is a short one…! Since you possibly went there as well, I do not have to repeat what was (basically) said! Frankly – I didn´t get much sense out of their summary, did not understand much! Read some of the referenced critics and found my prejudices confirmed. Smiling…! The fact that I hadn´t heard about this so far – you neither – basically proofs that this can be nothing but a shadow-science, maybe not even! What do you think?
No, I do not believe in it, but…, what to say, if one hasn´t all the facts and infos?
Maybe I should leave some “aural sculptures” here in that blog. For the true understanding of me…! Smile-smile!
And where are you writing from?
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* = of course not before you have consulted me first. I think of myself as a true cineast!
Hi JB, I asked where you are located cuz I was curious. FYI, I am typing from Surprise, Arizona, a small but growing family-oriented town just outside of that wonderful retirement paradise you speak off, Sun City. I am about 45 minutes from Phoenix.
I can’t say much about films, I might have a touch of ADD because I find it rather difficult to sit for any period of time and do nothing. Although, the tv is usually on – it’s usually on some news channel.
You are so funny…I dropped the boys off at Zanaida’s apt., #210 and going to the movies as you suggested lol.
As for the Wikipedia website, while it can be useful, I try not to use it since anyone can post information without having credentials or expertise. I looked up the website on speech reversal that was offered at the end of the video. Now, I do agree with you that the video was definitely weird and found it hard to believe. But, who knows…
Glad to have you back.
I AM SURE SHE KNOWS WERE THAT LITTLE ANGEL IS.
HER BIG BROWN EYES AND BEAUTIFUL SMILE. MAKE ME CRY. HOW COLUD HER MOTHER NOT EVEN SHOW ANY SORROW. I WOLUD BET MY LIFE ON IT THAT SHE KILLED HER. JUST BY THE WHY SHE HAS NOT SHOWED ANY REACTION. I HAVE (2) GROWN CHILDREN AND THEY ARE MY LIFE. I WOULD BE GIOING CRAZY BY NOW IF ONE WAS MISSING. SO THEIR ISN’T ANY WAY SHE CARED. I KNOW SHE WILL BE THAT LITTLE ANGEL. THEY SHOULD GIVE THE MOTHER A LIE DECT.TEST.OR TRIP HER UP IN TELLING THE TRUTH. AND HER GRANDMOTHERS ALSO KNOWS WHAT HAPPEN. WELL GOD BE WITH THAT LITTLE ANGEL SHE IS IN A BETTER PLACE.
If you have a problem with America, and american white trash, why do you come to a blog about one of OUR citizens. Hop to get news of her whereabouts soon.
I don’t agree with some people saying the GPs and brother are witholding evidence,they seem like they are sincere to me.They know Casey is a bad mom (and I think drug addict) and they are pretending to be there for her ONLY because they want to find Caylee,but deep down they know Casey let something happen to her,also the media hounds these people all the time and decides what to show the public.We don’t know what goes on besides what they let us see.Wouldn’t you yell at the media to shut up and leave you alone,being frusterated and just plain sick of it,wanting it to end?I do wonder where Casey was for that month too and it is probably being investigated but maybe we’re not supposed to find out,I also can’t believe that Casey has no feelings for her own daughter,the video of her smiling at her parents in court goes through my mind and turns my stomache.I have a 4 year old boy and if anything ever happened to him,I’d be going crazy!That little guy is my life!my heart and soul! I couldn’t imagine!That’s part of the reason I think she’s on drugs,like I said before I’ve never done drugs but my ex turned into a junkie and I saw it first hand,the lies,stealing,incapable of even taking care of themselves,so far gone that they don’t even know how to feel or remember or even know the truth.It’s disgusting and sad and it’s around you more than you know,and you can tell in GMs 911 call that there were already problems she knew about or she wouldn’t have had her daughter arrested for stealing her car and money,she was desperate to get her daughter help and to see her grandaughter!
JB,
Why do you keep commenting on white trash?I’m from Canada and there’s all kinds in every country,every city,I’m sure in yours too.give it up already.Cloudy Day is right,the reason we all care so much about this is the media has connected us with it,but most of all we can’t imagine how anyone could let this happen to their own kid,when the rest of us thank god every day that our kids are safe!And hopefully we can keep them that way because we don’t know what we would do if something ever happened to our own,so to think that some mother out there doesn’t show any feelings or remorse about her own child…..words can’t describe how disgusted we are.
Hi Mel,
you are citing “SunnyDay”, that the media connected us to that girl. True. But why you didn´t read the rest of her piece?
American kids are save, you continue? Sorry…? What are they? Haaaa!!! Are you kidding me or fooling yourself? Nobody is save in a country, where any brainless idiot can buy a gun in a heartbeat.
I go bowling …
Peggy-Sue Peters,
yaaaaaaawn…!!
We are way over this since about 6-7 days, Sue. Why not read a bit, before posting? And I bet that your two kids are the best, the most beautiful, the most educated and have never, never-ever done any harm anybody or anything.
May all the clean-cut American TV-preachers be with you (incl. the gay ones and the child-porn lovers).
Allah u-Akbar!
I believe that Casey is not talking because as they say “no body, no crime”. She’s stalling to let all of it die out, she did this or knows who did. My main theory is she was young, wanted to continue going out and partying and her daughter just didnt fit into her lifestyle as far as her new boyfriend- i.e. the bars etc.
She got rid of her daughter, then played it up as though nothing happened even to her boyfriend. She’s delaying the process- I say bond her out and wait for her to slip up- I pray for the safety of that little girl…
I believe that Casey is not talking because as they say “no body, no crime”. She’s stalling to let all of it die out, she did this or knows who did. My main theory is she was young, wanted to continue going out and partying and her daughter just didnt fit into her lifestyle as far as her new boyfriend- i.e. the bars etc.
She got rid of her daughter, then played it up as though nothing happened even to her boyfriend. She’s delaying the process- I say bond her out and wait for her to slip up- I pray for the safety of that little girl…
Amber says…
I’m on alert!
“No crime – no body” makes it hard(er) for the proscecution, but certainly not impossible.
Regarding Caisey taking drugs, as so often stated. Show me any American her age not taking drugs. You won´t find many, be sure! But what drugs are you taking about? Alcohol? Grass? Cocaine? Crack? Heroin? Meth? LSD? Mescalin? Opium?
I would be surprised if Caisey would not smoke a joint now and then. Grass is part of world-wide youth culture, especially in USA. I do not say so because I know, think, feel or draw that conclusion from her (all-American) inviroment,looks or behaviour, I just rely on statistics and own observations!
Crystal Meth, a drug mentioned a few times in connection with Casey is most definitely not the drugs of her choice. Her face would CERTAINLY tell, if that were the case! All other drugs I mentioned – except for LSD, Mescalin and Marihuana (”grass”)- are HIGHLY addictive and nobody, neither Casey, would want to remain to be incarcerated. Neither would she behave as peaceful in jail, as reports from the inside indicate!
Conclusion:
No heavy, addictive drugs play a main role here. Marihuana, common, be serious, is no longer and not really considered to be a drug (in the nasty sense of the word). Even a recent American president – and certainly not a bad one – has puffed. In Europe the possession of up to 30 grams of “grass” is not even a misdemeanour.
I´m still stunned that a whole army of homicide detectives, high-class profilers, crime-labs, crime-scene investigators and cadaver dogs are not able to keep up with a 22 year old all-American girl without criminal expertise. Some psychological experts described her in TV as being rather, quote, “simple structured”…!
By the way: what impression made this John Wayne-type bail-bondsman make on you? When I saw him wearing this black gunslinger vest and cowboy-hat (is this what you call a “Stetson”…?) I couldn´t help it but smile. America, I thought, is all about show and appearence. Of course I know that such a hat is part of Texan folklore, but to appear with it in a TV-interview, seen by half the nation, was rather funny to me. In Europe, by the way, it is considered to be bad behaviour/manners wearing a hat inside a building, leave alone in a TV-studio and talking to a woman (Nancy is a woman – isn´t she?)Still, what the guy was telling, didn´t sound stupid to me. I would laugh my ass
off – REALLY!!! – if “John Wayne” could really solve the case. Chances are not bad, I believe! All it needs is a black Stetson,
…with a clatter of spurs!
HOLLYWOOD MON AMOUR!
Hello Everyone!
I see I haven’t missed much while I was at school. I understand Casey refused visitation from her parents this morning but she still has not been released. Even if she were to be released, I don’t think she would be much help. She has proven how much help she can be and how much she truly wants to find little Caylee. Another day, another week full of deceit.
Another day, another week full of deceit.
Hello school-girl (in the sand):
Could you please tell me what´s the best website for (real) news in this case? Whenever I check courttv.com they hardly even mention the case. Wonder why? Is the interest in this case maybe limited to Florida or is it already an all-American thing, something like the “Peterson” case has been at some point? Basically this case has all the necessary ingrediences to be all-nation case.
Please give me a link to another website(s) you use to stay updated. I get the feeling the case is already running on empty, is in a dead-end road, with people´s “fascination” decreasng. Am I wrong…?
And where is Momma ‘Sister’ Rose? Any day without Momma is a lost day.
Another observation is that the incest/porn/sex theorizers have finally left us. Maybe they got “Springer” on endless rotation and get there what they need and not here any longer!
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I am the son of a smiling Momma too. When I look into her big-innocent eyes, I know I would do anything to free her. I would even show emotions. I could not survive if anything would happen to her in this cruel world. Mommas all over the world should be safe and sound.
JB
please! get back on your medication.
Ive been keeping track of this tragic case, and honestly what I think is Caylee’s family are all aware of what really happend. Nor the mom, the grandparents are telling the truth. They keep changing their stories in hopes that they can throw the police off with all this other details. If the cadaver dogs detected the smell of a decomposing body twice, i dont think a dog will lie! Since when does a persons back yard happend to smell like a cadaver out of the blue! Now regarding the grandmother of Caylee. She stated at the beginning of the investigation that there was a pair of jeans in the car. Does she not know that if her daughter was driving the car, anything in that car could be use for evidence! So why would you get a pair of pants out and wash them before the police arrives and sees the condition of the car!!! Honestly I think that Caylee’s mom had some sort of “bad day” or was even maybe on drungs and took off her anger towards her daughter not letting no one know of her actions, later on when she went back towards her parents and told them what happend, and they have just been living day by day. I mean even the brother knows what happend to little Caylee because in one of her recording in the jail they are both speaking in code! Either way may God be with little Caylee! I just dont understand how you can give life to your child and then take it away from them!!!!! That is just completely SICK!!!!!
Here I am JB…(Chris..JB has promised to try to be kinder to all his fellow bloggers, so even though he talks with many adjectives, he is trying!! His Momma has set him straight!)
thanx moma:-)
Hi JB!
There are so many links to information on this case that it can be very confusing as to which one is the best. I have been using myfoxorlando.com and local6.com as well as fox news at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405264,00.html.
All these sites will have about the same information.
I think you are right, this case is loosing the interest of many; at least until something new comes up.
On a personal note…I don’t see why some people continue to attack you, you have been very civil since the “speculators” have gone to other sites. I am proud of you! MomaRosa has done a good job straightening you out hahalol.
Ooooh Dulcinea!
German shepherds don´t lie? Respectable American citizens do…? Is that the summary of your post? Is this what you want to get across?
The news, that even Grandma Cindy is on “drungs” (a new addiction-mix of alcohol and hard-druX?)is another breaking news. You´re so clever, Dr. Gonzales!
Wooow – and another a new develoment! Brodda Lee, you explain in detail, is just as guilty as the devil and all American stadium-preachers together. He spoke with a coded-tongue, this bad boy! Shame on him! He possibly thinks in jail he can talk like he pleases. Why they just didn´t keep him locked where he belongs? Offense: speech reversal in the second degree!
Ooooh Dulcinea! I am really taken by your deepest insight. You profiled this case like nobody before.
Since we´re not sitting in a glass-house, let´s just stone this terrible Anthony-bunch! At least one of them is possibly guilty!
“SICK” – you said it Dull-Z!
AZ:
I´d suffered some relapse some moments ago, but since I followed “Chris-1990´s” (does it mean this kid needs Momma´s agreement to be here)advice, I feel already much better.
Thank you very much for the various links. I will look them up. According to my watch and counting, it should be about 4 pm in
Flori-dada. Are they working over-hours in Casey´s jailhouse or didn´t “John Wayne” get the cash together to free her?
Unlike in many other cases of that kind, the press, it seems, is not really too creative. Considering this high-profile case, the news-situation is rather low.
I am more than astonished, I can just repeat, that the cops seem to be unable to get a single step – A SIIIIIINGLE Step – forward. Very-very surprising!
This case proves the ancient wisdom of crooks: don´t talk to police, if you want to keep your chances.
On the other hand, there is no way – NONE!!! – that police won´t solve this riddle. Not in the wildest dreams anybody should think this case goes unsolved. It is just a matter of time.
About ten days ago I made a bet, saying this case won´t last longer than Wednesday. I lost the bet. My deadline was LAST Wednesday.
The “price” of the bet, you ask…? OK. I had to write 100 times “There is no Wh*te Tr*sh in America. Not a big deal, you say? Pheeew!
Try to do that,…with a pencil in your mouth!
Since I bought myself a “Stetson” (today at “Bondman-Outfitters” for 139.99, fake Puma-leather from Australia) all girls are smiling at me. How come? I didn´t even wear it!?!
Just read – you too, I know – that Casey won´t be released today. Because of proposed home confinement conditions? What does that mean, any clue?
JB..Have you noticed that a few fellow bloggers are coming together in your defense since Momma stepped in? See, we can all learn to get along, and agree to disagree. Back to Casey..I didn’t see anything new since Saturday. Did anyone hear if she is actually getting out or not?
JB:
I’m not sure what your comment here means…”I´d suffered some relapse some moments ago, but since I followed “Chris-1990´s” (does it mean this kid needs Momma´s agreement to be here)advice, I feel already much better.”
No, you (JB) need no one’s agreement or permission to be here!
How’s those sentences coming along?
The time posted with each blog is the time in Florida, which is 3 hours later than where I am.
From my understanding her parents do not want her in their home for “safety reasons”. That is my only guess about the house arrest thing. Well, that and the bounty hunters said they would be there with her at all times. Would you want John Wayne staying in your home?
I am a country girl from the deep south…there is no surprise girls were looking at you carrying your stetson. Women love cowboys! lol
Keep this blog alive!!
i think caylee anthony is dead and her mom is guilty.
you would think if her mom wasnt guilty she would tell the truth and not lie about anything. if she wasnt guilty she wouldnt of reported her daughter missing a month or so later. and thats really wierd that theres a odd smell in her trunk and also strans of hair. if casey wasnt involved in it or was really worie about her daughter she would tell the truth and talk to the prosecuters and her lawyer more.
I THINK CASEY IS THE ONE WHO MURDERED HER DAUGHTER CAYLEE IF ITS NOT HER SHE AT LEAST HAS TO KNOW MORE THEN WHAT SHES BEEN TELLING THE LAW.
WELL I HOPE THE BEST FOR LITTLE CAYLEE ANTHONY AND THAT SHE IS FOUND A LIVE AND SAFE.
NO MATTER WHAT SOMETHINNGS UP WITH CASEY.
AZ…He’s just being funny, (JB). Nobody needs anyones permission to be here! We’re just being cute back and forth.
Armanee. I also feel the same way. Any sensible mother would speak up; it’s only natural that she would want to protect her child. It doesn’t make any sense that someone has her. It’s just another decoy.
Hi MomaRosa, Hope you are having a great Monday.
I know, JB is very funny. I was lost when he said something about Chris-1990’s. Know what that is about, Moma? Explanation JB?.
Casey has never made any attempt to recover Caylee because her daughter is unrecoverable. And I do believe that Caylee is a child of incest because Casey’s brother is named Lee. Hence, Casey + Lee = Caylee. I think they BOTH had something to do with the disappearance and she’s protecting her brother and her brother is protecting her. Someone needs to run a DNA test on the hair they found belonging to Caylee.
Just guessing it’s referring to Chris telling JB to get back on his meds since his comments are sort of zany and critical. I then explained to Chris that JB is trying hard to be kinder to his fellow bloggers. Chris then thanked me. JB then jokingly confessed to being in a fog,(on his meds and all!) That’s about it! With JB, you have to read between the lines!! Right, Buddy? haha..
After watching the interviews with the family, I find it very unusual that the paternal family is
not involved at all. Someone on that side of the
family had to have known about the birth of Caylee even if it was a close friend. I just read the incest response before mine and wanted to say that after watching the interviews that was the very first thing that came to mind. I’m glad that I wasn’t the only one who thought that.
Marsha…I have been asking all along where the father’s side is in all of this. I can’t understand the lack of involvement either. Is it also possible that Casey is a total floozie and she never knew? Anything goes here!
Oh crap, I totally missed that, don’t know how that happened. Thanx MomaRosa! I guess you are here to keep us all in line, or at least up-to-date.
Update: Just a guess, but a possible reason for the comment on home confinement conditions is that the phone line needed for Casey’s new ankle bracelet must not have any features or internet connected to it. The phone line has to be a plain ol phone line and that could take a couple days to get taken care of.
Hom Confinement Issues…at last i can explain. The ‘ankle bracelet monitoring device’ used atthis time requirews a land ine phone linked to the 911 system as defiled by the local policee/sherrif department guideines. In The guilty party , ahem. alegedly guilty party Casyes jurisdiction they require a dinosaur of a phone with no call waiting, id, forwarding or internet on it. Most of us dont have such a beast. They probobly need to have this line specially dedicated to the monitor. installed. this will take time.
I believe that the grandparents know more than they claim. How bizarre of the grandmother being all gung ho about dropping her daughter off at the police station for grand theft to now supporting her daughter in every which way. If the Casey and Caylee spent much of the time at the grandparents house how could it be over a month before the grandparents even started to question about the length of time it’s been since they have last seen their granddaughter?
I sure hope Nancy or Greta have something to say tonight. I’m getting ready to watch. Bye for now. Let’s all pray for poor little Caylee.
I do not believe based on her name that incest plays a role in this case. Come on people, you should really not speculate such b.s. simply based on someones name. Without going into specific details, a name has nothing to do with whether or a person has been molested or is being molested. Incest has to do with sickness in the head. More times than not, if a girl is being molested, it ends when the girl is a teen or a pre-teen. Incest makes you want to harm or kill the person hurting you, not the product of such nonsense. Adoption would be the answer for the latter part of that, not murder.
And before people bash me for my comments, yes, I have personal knowledge about the incest subject. So unless you do to, don’t bash me.
The incest thing is really far-fetched!
I just want to quickly comment on the incest thing too. I also don’t want to go there without any evidence. I understand bloggers are merely throwing out ideas because we are all so very confused with Casey’s lies. It’s causing all of us to let our minds run wild. We are all entitled to our comments, but for me, I don’t see anything that points in that direction as of yet.
JB = juebusch@aol.com
Can somebody post one post for me? I can´t (even if you can read this). It´s a “clean” piece and if you do not like it, you do not have to. I send it to you, if…!
I have a statement to make.
I tried anything, even installments did not work. Strange, it my “nicest” post! No idea what´s wrong or if this one works now…
Got an automatic post saying “you have posted this already”. Yes, I have, but it did not went through.
I try now in installments again, but mix the number. You must put it together then, according to the numbers. I start with numbers 3, than 4, then 2 and so forth. Maybe that beats the system…
sent you an email!
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Believe me, it´s a hard job to be sharp or even nasty every single day and I can´t really say what made me so angry.
Actually it was not only out of the respect (I used to claim here so often)for the Anthony´s, that I never spoke about my own standpoint in the case. It was more because I was unable to find them guilty. I was even unable to find Casey guilty or even remorseless or selfish or whatever else has been stressed here. I perfectly remember how stupid, remorseless, shameless and ridicolous I have been, when 22 and even older. I saw Casey cry, but could not say – as others could – was it for herself and her actual jail-misery or for her girl or anything else. How could you tell, I wonder? Casey is not my personal raw-model for female beauty, but I still found her physically sympathetic. Since I do not have own children (unless you count my five cats, I agree, a trashy high number for a straight man)it was possibly harder for me to understand what mothers feel in such a moment. And, true too, I could understand all this fuzz about a single girl, which wasn´t even confirmed dead, just missing, when, at the same time, uncounted little girls – definitely as sweet as Caylee – were dying in wars, where also USA had their fingers into it. Leave alone the stupid Russian/Georgian aggression in the Caucasus, an issue which run parallel to the Anthony-story.
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Of course, “SunnyDay” was perfectly right, when stressing that it has been the press (who I do see as the main “evil” in this case, though I am a pressman myself)who made the mothers here believe she were someone close to their own kids. Excuse me, but I did not fell for this. I know how this simple psychology shall work, what it shall do and I was simply not ready to buy that.
What I really believe? I can´t imagine Cindy and George are involved in any other way than possibly protecting her daughter and some possible lies (I do not know any) of hers. All parents would do. I would do that in a heartbeat for any single friend and family anyway. Who would not?
Casey? Nooooo idea. I am absolutely unable to form an opinion. Nobody can, I believe. If it would turn out she were 100% innocent and had done all she did only to protect her baby, most of the incest and porn theorizers, I bet, would find a way to justify their previous statements. Out of respect for the Anthony´s, who might also read such blogs as this, I could neither say they were also guilty, not that the child was possibly dead. But not just out of respect, I simply did not know and if not knowing, sometimes it´s better to keep mum shut. Do we always have to comment on anything, especially if nobody can REALLY know? Sure, this is a blog and blogs are there to “bla-bla”, I know.
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I always disliked those people who could not get enough of blaming others, coming up with any silly idea to support their hunger for blood. As if they would feel better, when others are in troule. We all know what (especially) underpriviledged masses are able to do, when foolish gossip sets them on fire. Remember the terror after the Rodney King beating? Those were basically meant, when I said “White Trash”, because those, living in trailors are not necessarily worst than others. I was just stuck with this idea and saw no more way out, with arguments! Foolish me!
I still refuse to speculate about the baby, about Caylee. If I were a cop or if I were looking or an answer in all this many “True Crime” books I own, the answer were possibly clear. I am still unable to put it into words – again – just because I do not know and not even my gut-feeling gives me any hint. The best I can say is – ANYTHING could be and this is what I really think. What possibly sounds as if I wanted to keep all options open, is not the case. I simply do not know. If Casey knows? More than we do, that´s obvious. But if she knows all? I am TOTALLY surprised that such a young girl is able to stay in jail for already 4 weeks now, without breaking down, without giving up. Not even all hard-boys-with-tatoos can say the same about themselves. Wouldn´t it be a normal reaction for a mother of a dead child to get closure, even if it meant many years behind bars? Why that´s different with Caysee? That fact alone does not point to her being guilty, I believe!
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Yes, I am fascinated by this case meanwhile. Hooked even. I switch back and forth to find infos or news. No success for the most part – not even any tiny bis of news. That too, is VERY-VERY unusual given the aggressive US-press and cops.
Still, I firmly believe this case is coming to an end pretty soon now. That she gets out of jail is a turning point, that´s as clear as day. If it´s really the end-point is uncertain, of course!
Think about the Karr-case, this horrible idiot claiming to have killed JonBenet Ramsey. Weren´t we all sure he was the one or had at least anything to do with it?
There are so many FREAKS out there, that we can count on any possible outcome. That said, I would finally not be surprised if those were right, who have given horrible accounts here.
We stay tuned, I assume…
part one does not go through. Maybe tomorrow.
WOW, you made a lot of sense, JB. I can’t imagine anyone sitting on information that long either. She may very well have not harmed little Caylee. You brought up some excellent points and supported them well.
I am watching Nancy Grace right now so it is hard to watch new developments and blog…
…and forget the numbers. They do not represent the text in right order. You must put it together yourself, without my numbers.
Try to re-write part 1, because it explains why and how Momma made me show my real face!
That is the missing first part, partly re-written to beat this system, which somehow controlls what is written. No idea to what parameters…
No joke, but I always pictured “Momma” as
being a black
Afro-American. Funny, isns´t it? The naive
me! Maybe it needs a shrink to check this one
out. Maybe it´s really for the memory
of “Rosa Parks”, the brave black “Momma”, who
was, one fine day, fed up to ride in the back
of the bus (reserved for “Ni***rs”, to use
the terrible term used in those days),
refusing to stand up, when I cop wanted her
too. She was then spark to change the
relation between black and white America for
the better – at least to the point where we
stand today.
And this is the complete rest (after part one, above). I have a feeling it could work now, could go through this time, something what never worked before. It´s done to make it easier for you to see all in context!
=====
Believe me, it´s a hard job to be sharp or
even nasty every single day and I can´t
really say what made me so angry.
Actually it was not only out of the respect
(I used to claim here so often)for the
Anthony´s, that I never spoke about my own
standpoint in the case. It was more because I
was unable to find them guilty. I was even unable to find Casey guilty or even
remorseless or selfish or whatever else has
been stressed here. I perfectly remember how stupid, remorseless, shameless and ridicolous
I have been, when 22 and even older. I saw
Casey cry, but could not say – as others
could – was it for herself and her actual
jail-misery or for her girl or anything else.
How could you tell, I wonder? Casey is not my
personal raw-model for female beauty, but I
still found her physically sympathetic. Since
I do not have own children (unless you count
my five cats, I agree, a trashy high number
for a straight man)it was possibly harder for
me to understand what mothers feel in such a
moment. And, true too, I could understand all
this fuzz about a single girl, which wasn´t
even confirmed dead, just missing, when, at
the same time, uncounted little girls –
definitely as sweet as Caylee – were dying in
wars, where also USA had their fingers into
it. Leave alone the stupid Russian/Georgian
aggression in the Caucasus, an issue which
run parallel to the Anthony-story.
Of course, “SunnyDay” was perfectly right,
when stressing that it has been the press
(who I do see as the main “evil” in this
case, though I am a pressman myself)who made
the mothers here believe she were someone
close to their own kids. Excuse me, but I did
not fell for this. I know how this simple
psychology shall work, what it shall do and I
was simply not ready to buy that.
What I really believe? I can´t imagine Cindy
and George are involved in any other way than
possibly protecting her daughter and some
possible lies (I do not know any) of hers.
All parents would do. I would do that in a
heartbeat for any single friend and family
anyway. Who would not?
Casey? Nooooo idea. I am absolutely unable to
form an opinion. Nobody can, I believe. If it
would turn out she were 100% innocent and had
done all she did only to protect her baby,
most of the incest and porn theorizers, I
bet, would find a way to justify their
previous statements. Out of respect for the
Anthony´s, who might also read such blogs as
this, I could neither say they were also
guilty, not that the child was possibly dead.
But not just out of respect, I simply did not
know and if not knowing, sometimes it´s
better to keep mum shut. Do we always have to
comment on anything, especially if nobody can
REALLY know? Sure, this is a blog and blogs
are there to “bla-bla”, I know.
I always disliked those people who could not
get enough of blaming others, coming up with
any silly idea to support their hunger for
blood. As if they would feel better, when
others are in troule. We all know what
(especially) underpriviledged masses are able
to do, when foolish gossip sets them on fire.
Remember the terror after the Rodney King
beating? Those were basically meant, when I
said “White Trash”, because those, living in
trailors are not necessarily worst than others. I was just stuck with this idea and saw no more way out, with arguments! Foolish me!
I still refuse to speculate about the baby, about Caylee. If I were a cop or if I were looking or an answer in all this many “True
Crime” books I own, the answer were possibly clear. I am still unable to put it into words – again – just because I do not know
and not even my gut-feeling gives me any hint. The best I can say is – ANYTHING could be and this is what I really think. What
possibly sounds as if I wanted to keep all options open, is not the case. I simply do not know. If Casey knows? More than we do,
that´s obvious. But if she knows all? I am TOTALLY surprised that such a young girl is able to stay in jail for already 4 weeks now,
without breaking down, without giving up. Not even all hard-boys-with-tatoos can say the same about themselves. Wouldn´t it be a
normal reaction for a mother of a dead child to get closure, even if it meant many years
behind bars? Why that´s different with Caysee? That fact alone does not point to her being guilty, I believe!
Yes, I am fascinated by this case meanwhile. Hooked even. I switch back and forth to find
infos or news. No success for the most part – not even any tiny bis of news. That too, is
VERY-VERY unusual given the aggressive US-press and cops.
Still, I firmly believe this case is coming to an end pretty soon now. That she gets out
of jail is a turning point, that´s as clear as day. If it´s really the end-point is uncertain, of course!
Think about the Karr-case, this horrible idiot claiming to have killed JonBenet
Ramsey. Weren´t we all sure he was the one or had at least anything to do with it?
There are so many FREAKS out there, that we can count on any possible outcome. That said,
I would finally not be surprised if those were right, who have given horrible accounts here.
We stay tuned, I assume…
For those being interested.
Please read ONLY # 446 + 447.
Forget the rest. 446+447 together are in the right order!
I had to make double-lines in this posts in order to get it through and to beat the system. That was the only way to make it work and get it through! Why? Noooo idea! Not even a clue…
Like the Anthony case, a mystery!
Talk to you tomorrow!
J.
JB, my friend. Lots of intersting points, BUT you say she hasn’t broke down in four weeks so she must know Caylee is alive. In my opinion, (and we’re all allowed one), I think this shows how stubborn she is. After all, she hasn’t told authorities anything in this time either. Wouldn’t she want to get on with her life if Caylee were really safe somewhere?
I can be stubborn, but how can anyone with a heart not show emotion during a time like this for so long. There is no way, no matter how cold hearted, that I could hold up such a charade for so long. I would crack. I may be stubborn but maybe I’m just not selfish enough to understand.
Ok the grandmother knew what the smell was because she is a nurse. I don’t have and opinion on what happened. I watch the news and listen to what they are saying and what the police are finding. I only hope and pray that little Caylee Marie Anthony is found and brought home safely. Now I don’t think that Caylee should be returned to Casey! She should have gone to the police the second she knew something was wrong. I think that whatever crimes have been committed, charges hopefully will be pressed against Casey or whoever is involved with little Caylee’s disappearance
“MR” and all!
Being in jail, being locked-up is an incredile experience, more than anybody, who never made this experience, can comprehend. It is not only the lack of freedom, the freedom to go and do what you wish, it is an unbelievable feeling of helplessness. Suddenly one realizes that s/he is no longer than master of anything. Neither his dress-code, nor his sleep not his food.
To be separated from loved ones (truely LOVED ones, I mean)and not knowing if for a day, a month, 3 years or a lifetime, to be taken literally into another world from one moment to the next, is extremely mindbending. Actually it´s torture, it´s the most miserable position a person be in.
In such hopelessness most people break down, especially during the early days, especially female and girls without any crime and jail-experience.
Casey did not!
What does it mean, what could it mean? We do not know since people are very different, based on their genes, psychological and social background and other factors.
What what is most likely? That, I believe, is the only question we can answer. But that means we are on the land of speculation. There are educated guesses, there are far fetched ideas and there is pure nonsense (like the incest-BS, especially when explained with the name-hypothesis).
Being in jail, besides anything else, means stress. Enduring extreme stress! Especially if guilty, with the case being unsolved, but the possibility to get that bad news any time the cell-door opens. Living under such conditions leads to a psychlogical breakdown in way more cases than not. Caisey seems to be OK still and far from falling apart.
Besides this, everybody knows that homicide has the highest,…how to say in English, the highest rate of “solving” (sorry, lack the right word). Everybody knows that! This case is no different. It will be solved, this is as clear as day.
What is my point?
With Casey still being OK and the least worried (as one could observe in the “jail-visit-films” being published, for example)I think this gives more reason to assume she knows that the child is neither dead nor in immedeate danger.
It is always stressed that people who have lost a person want desperately closure. Want to get it out of the system to get on with their lives, as is often said with simelar words.
Why should Caisey be different? What could she be hoping for? That she gets away with murder, while the cops NEVER-EVER give up to solve this case? She had to be a real simple-mind to think so.
Then her lawyer! He strikes me to be a serious guy. He is the only person she is in permanent touch with. Why you think this lawyer – as well as the bondsman, who definitely got perfect information, before putting his fingers into this – whenever in TV, argues pro Caylee being alive? What for this theatre. If it turns out the girl is dead and the lawyer either knew or was naive, his career as high-profile lawyer were finished. Why should he take that risk? Who would?
The parents, Cindy and George, are innocent and have not much of a clue, except for some speculation and minor knowledge, though this is possibly more than we know. Still, they just want to protect their daughter and have AAAAAANY RIGHT – and obligation – to do so. Same for the brother!
On the other hand. Some famous historical person had said some century(ies) ago:
“The more we learn – the less we know”
and this is pretty much how I feel. Of course I could argue vice versa, but I do not wish to play devils advocat. Why not is simple: I tend to believe more that Caisey is not guilty (at least not DIRECT in her daughters death)than the opposite.
A big argument against is that possible kidnappers are not only able to hide, but also keep mouth shut. If there are kidnappers, they are not high professionals with experience, they would come from Casey´s world. “Stupid kids” in other words. And they, all experience proofs this over and over, have a hard time to keep mouth shut. In most cases they feel the urge to tell their “best friend” and….click, the cops are there.
I wonder, is there some reward for those coming forward? On the billboard-car George was driving through town last week I read the word “REWARD”, but no amount. Is there any amount for tips?
After all this case is not about money. Nobody of her “friends” would protect Caisey any longer, now that all the world is knowing and the cops on highest alert. That points to a single involvment of mother Caisey. Of course!
The lying, here so often cited or quoted. What were this lies? That she told the cops she would work, but didn´t? Common, that´s a minor thing and does not tell anything. I am not aware of any other lies. Maybe you can list them again?
When recalling what cops say over and over in missing-persons cases, that the first 24-48 hours are the most important to find a child or person, I am going to lose hope that Caylee can really be found.
The cadaver dogs? This John “Bailbondsman” Wayne made it pretty clear in believable way, that cadaver dogs can “lie” indeed. Even two of them and even two of them independant of each other in a row. Why not, they too are just human and can fail, don´t you think? If it is likely is another point! Of course it´s not!
What about the lab? Why do they need more than a week to do some DNA, hair or air-test? Does anybody know if this can really take that long? I find this to be suspicious. And does not speak for the efficienacy of American labs – sorry!
I am truely amazed that police was unable in 4 weeks to built a case, other than child neglect. Seems they got nothing, leave alone they dragged tons of stuff out of the grandparents house. Surprising!
True is also what some say here. Why the dead husbands parents or families are not at all in the focus? Why the press in not interested, I wonder! Especially now, in times completely dry of any news.
It won´t take longer than a year, maybe two, and there will be a few well researched books out on the case. Possibly it takes till than, before we can fully understand, how and of the cop´s daily progress was.
Another fact we quickly forget, while a case like this is going on, is that police usually knows more, often much more, if not all, but can´t make it public for reasons we can all understand. Not to put the case or even lives in harms way. In other words: the case has already progressed much further, than we can think about.
I would be interested to know from each of you of how long you think it will take more, till the case is solved?
I say it takes no longer than until the end of this month August Another 11 days the most! Actually I would even go so far to say that it takes no longer than 1-2-3 days, after Caisey is free on bail. Till the end of this weekend, were my second guess, being actually even my first one.
What do you think?
quote Nicole: “Ok the grandmother knew what the smell was because she is a nurse.”
That is a very good point, but didn´t she admit that she felt and smelled so? I did not believe the Pizza-smell thing the VERY! moment it was published. Pizza dries – I am the expert on dried pizza. Does not smell, no!
Another question, one that is usually asked first in a homicide:
Where is the motive? Who gains from a dead child?
Certainly not the grandparents nor brother Lee. Especially grandparents are known for loving their grandkids often more than the own mothers, at least not less. The most Cindy and George are “guilty” of, I repeat, are some minor cover-ups!
And a motive? To party…? No way. A person like Caisey, as she appears to me, would definitely party and smoke a joint, yes, but NOT KILL HER CHILD to be free. FREE? Nobody can be free forever, after a murder! NOBODY! Certainly not the 22 year old Caisey Anthony, daughter of Cindy and George!
AGain: I also do not buy the drugtaker-theory. She just doesn´t look lke, or have you ever seen a Meth, Cocaine or Heroin user with perfect teeth as hers? Google the searchword “facesofmeth” possibly “facesofmeth.com”, though the latter is not sure. You find it quickly,though. Look at this faces there, all with very typical “face-wounds”. Caisey is lightyears from them. She is not a (hard) drug-taker, believe me!
What strikes me as unusual, something that does not seem to speak for the grandparents indeed – as other posters have said already before me – is the fact that they obviously didn´t miss their beloved grand-daughter for a period of 4 endlessly long weeks.
Maybe they were pissed? Maybe Caisey left the house and took some “golden spoons”? Maybe her parents let her ultimately know “never get back into this house”, something naturally with consequences for Caylee visiting them too.
If that had really been said Caisey would have been “alone” out there, with friends and in an inviroment nobody would like to see anybody in. No money, no reliable friends, bad influence. Yes, she could have let her daughter as a “security” for the timebeing. To get money, to get….whatever!
And then…? Why should or would this people harm a child? Again, seems not really likely, though it´s not impossible.
Really, it makes no sense to speculate, mainly because we lack too many hard facts and do not know Caisey herself nor her inviroment and real and false friends.
I find out, that I slowly but surely take this case as a big criminal riddle, while it were indeed better to step aside, keep mouth shut and hope for the best. Possibly I am nothing but the same White TRash I compoained about from the beginning and till “Momma”…!
Momma, stop to treat me well, if you do not want to be guilty of trashing me!
I didn’t think she was a hard-core meth user either. One can do meth occassionly and still not look that bad but they also wouldn’t have that “hold” that would make them do something as absurd as kill their baby.
Ok everyone, it’s 9pm and I have to get up at 5, so I will see ya’ll later.
JB, behave, we’re watching you…haha
JB
I never said American kids are safe,I’m saying that part of the reason so many of us are so interested is because we(as in loving parents that TRY to keep our kids safe) can’t believe that a mother would just let something happen to her daughter without any care or emotions about it.And I’m not from America first of all,and I agree it’s a scary world to raise a kid in with the weapons,drugs,etc,etc, but most of us would do anything to try to keep our kids safe and do the best we can,unlike Casey….
JB
one more thing now that I’ve read further,I am definately not talking about smoking a joint now and then,what I’m thinking is crack,I’ve seen crackheads firsthand(I would like to point out I have NEVER tried it,but it happens to be a HUGE problem where I’m from,have lost a lot of people to it and have witnessed their behaviour ),they binge on it,and it was probably out of her system before she went to jail,but they have no feelings,they don’t hold jobs,they steal and lie and dissappear for a period of time,they’re selfish,they would do ANYTHING for that next crack hoot,and they don’t even know the truth…and they definately don’t care about their kids or anyone else around them
I think the GPs did wonder where Caylee was at for a month because in the 911 call Cindy says,”I’ve given you a month”and I’ve heard that Casey would call her and she’d ask to talk to or see Caylee and Casey would make an excuse about her being sleeping or something.also I wish people would stop talking about incest too.It’s rediculous.One more thing,with the dad of Caylee,apparently his parents didn’t even know that Caylee even existed so he probably didn’t either,maybe Casey didn’t even know who he was and made up the lie about him being dead,who knows.
http://www.local6.com/news/17224022/detail.html
Did you read this…?
I can hardly believe what I just read! Internet-bloggers – Momma, you´re among them? – have searched the woods in order to solve the case. The ULTIMATE NIGHTMARE came really true. Avarage citizens take the law into their own hands. It starts rather innocent (though completely idiotic, I believe), than I see another Internet-blogger group (maybe ours…) interfering with the first, finally leading to a shoot-out for the best searching spots. Pheeeeeew…!
As I said earlier, that is a total blame for the cops (especially since this guys really found something, though schoolbooks can´t be of a 3-year-old)who appear to be rather helpless and clueless. What`s wrong with them? Are they on meth…? Or just tired?
Before you nail me one more time for bashing innocent bloggers, who just want the “best”, please consider the irreversable damage this amateurs could cause and did cause, if the finds turn out to be relevant.
Imagine how a crime-scene is usually secured. You all have seen that a 1000 times in 1001 crime-flicks. Any little leave, the most uninteresting looking stone, anything, I mean REALLY anything has to remain EXACTLY in its original place.
And now…?
A mess. A find-spot (or more)good for nothing or crime-technicians.
Know what I mean?
Amateurs, even those with the best intentions, taken the law, even a search into their own hands, is never a good thing.
I really “hate” this false activism!
But the cops…? DESASTER-DESASTER!!
reg. post # 459
old: I really “hate” this false activism!
new: I dislike this counterproductive activism!
J.
JB..I’m proud of you for softening your words!! No, I don’t live in Florida and didn’t participate in any type of search. Yes, I have also heard that the searchers could have tainted evidence. I sure wish authorities had found this instead. For the record..I’m a “Mom” who lives in Ohio. (former medical transcriber who loves the idea of being a housewife). Rose is my middle name. I put it together and thought it sounded warm and loving. I’m not going to nail you, JB. I have only tried to soften you, (and I think I did). Sure you have valid points as well, but if someone attacks your opinion, you are going to feel defensive, like the fellow bloggers did when you came back at them. Hey, if ANY of us knew what really happened, that would be nice. And once again..I think we are all entitled to voice ourselves.
Just as our eyes can play tricks on us, so do our minds. Reading from the very beginning of this long, and quite repetitive blog, I have seen a lot of certainty. Certainty in the cause of death, or actual death of the child, certainty in the parties involved, certainty in our own actions, and our own imagined responses to the same situation. I believe one went so far as to “bet her own life” on the guilt of Casey.
What I have also seen are some very interesting conclusions that we have come to about each other. Some of us were attacked because of our utilization of proper English, and as it turns out; English is perhaps our second language, (or third or fourth). There have been generalizations both proved and disproved, again, not all of us are Americans, and our gender is not always so easy to determine from our linguistic style alone.
Some started here with open minds, looking for answers, wanting a solution to a puzzle that our minds alone could not wrap ourselves around. Some came with minds made up (as if they were neatly tucked into bed at night) and were looking to gain the praise of the group as a whole for their conclusions.
The staying power of the closed minds seems to have faded, while the inquisitive bunch of us left seem to be hanging on for dear life.
If we can be so wrong about each other, suffice it to say, I hope we realize how terribly wrong we can be about people we’ve not so much as had an virtual battle of withs with.
Appearances can be deceiving, as I’m sure JB can attest to; having multiple cats does indeed raise red flags in the perception of sexuality in a man (as he himself made reference to) but is he gay? No. I gathered from earlier posts that people thought I was French- which I am not. I speak 5 languages, and have degrees in both Biology and Chemistry. But what do I do for a living? I am an artist. I paint and have my own line of jewelry. Would you have come to that conclusion? Probably not. I am a traveler (hopefully never a tourist) and only use my education to assist in remaining as inconspicuous as possible when I do so. A single girl (in her 30’s) traveling alone is much better off when she blends in. It probably speaks volumes that I refer to myself as a girl, when by age accounts alone I am a woman.
We are all drawing from our personal experiences and prejudices, in as many different ways as can be done. AZ has personal knowledge of incest, and makes statements based on that. Are they true and accurate to the best of her knowledge? I believe so. I also have personal knowledge of incest, yet I disagree completely with some of the statements regarding an incest victims feelings or reactions. Is that true and accurate to the best of my knowledge? I believe so. My uncle was murdered, and I have opinions on how a family member of a victim reacts; because of my own reactions. I’m fairly certain that many would react differently.
When I was a little girl, my father used to say to me, “Lügen haben kurze Beine”, which translates to: lies have short legs. What he meant was that lies don’t get very far, and that you will be caught in them soon. What I thought was that I was never going to be caught, because I have long legs, and I could out-run them. Silly me.
We are indeed, forming a virtual neighborhood here, even if our next-door neighbor happens to live thousands of miles away.
Cloudy Day..That was a great post!! I will remember your Dad’s saying, (and try to learn how to say it correctly). Is it pronounced “Loogan or Logan?” I like the idea of a virtual neighborhood here. Yes, we can all be friends~
Moma- First I’d like to comment on the timing of our personal admissions of identity. I had not read your post until after I had posted mine. I suppose that now that we have all bickered, and moved past it, we are starting to feel more comfortable around each other. Across the board, both Americans and non, started with our hackles high and our personal defenses raised. Now, we slowly peek out of the holes in our security blankets, and check out the neighbors. It seems that a few of us have been baking up virtual pies to bring to each other.
You were pretty close with the Loogen. It’s a hard sound to describe, maybe Loogen+Lewgen mixed together? You can scold your child(ren)? in German now
I only hope they understand the meaning, it took me over a decade to finally understand what my father had intended.
I don’t believe that Casey was on any powerful addicting drug.
I do know a girl that is addicted to meth (so much so that unfortunately her child could be a poster child for meth babies), and I will tell you she has the most PERFECT skin and teeth. But I also have seen addicts that looked the complete opposite.
Casey would have to, I imagine, be clean for quite some time to deal with the highs and lows of her body ridding the toxins. I would also find it hard to think that she did something to Caylee because of her drug use. I just can’t buy that a drug addict would accidentally hurt her child and then go about her life. You would think that the person would harm themself after realizing what they have done..or get even more involved in whatever drug they are involved in.
She seems pretty ’sane’. No user or a recovering addict could act so calm and collected. They would’ve cracked within the first week.
Thanks for clearing that up. I used to know some German, but I didn’t keep up with it! You have a great way with words. Yes, I think it’s safe to all be on friendly terms! Of course, we are all here to find out what happened to little Caylee. I started watching this on CNN back when it first aired. I watch people and their body language. I don’t have all the answers, but I have to admit that I cannot believe Casey, and I have to believe she did something more than give her to a babysitter. To me, it’s not in our human nature to act this way unless something is very wrong. People don’t keep stories spinning unless they think they are covering something up by confusing the public. Sorry JB! It’s not something that we need to argue over; we should be able to express ourselves and still be friends! I respect all of the opinions here, just as I ask that mine be respected too! The bounty hunter is grabbing at straws. In my opinion, he is using this for his own gain. He hasn’t and cannot give one reason why he thinks Casey is telling the truth. I once lived with a master manipulator. This screws with your head, but it teaches you many things about how the human mind ticks, especially with an unstable person. They have many, many lies, even when there is nothing to really gain by lying. I hope I am totally wrong, but I strongly feel Caylee is gone and her mother is to blame.
“Und kleines Mädchen bleibt verschwunden”
Hi “Sunny”,
that has been the sentence making me understand you were most likely not raised with German being your first language. I know the German language better than most, I can say without arrogance and just a little bit of pride. True, I have a problem (Momma, see how I aoid to start that sentence with “I hate when…”)with those being low in their native language.
Your sentence is close to be perfect, but the absence of the article “das” (in “Und DAS kleine Mädchen”) made clear you didn´t grew up with German as first language. Besides that, it is not recommended in our (!) language to start a sentence with the “connection-word” UND, though it could be done nowadays, especially in certain inviroments or circumstances.
But why did “Sunny’s” father speak to his little daughter in German, mentioning a proverb even, one already outdated in the middle of the Seventies, when you were that sunny girl?
The total lack of (all) articles, as far as I know, point towards eastwards languages and countries. I should be on the right track, but do not want to solve the riddle, since speculating about your origin or passport is your business alone!
The “Sunny’s-homeland-security” case gets even more complicated. I guess most of you do agree, that Sunny’s English is quite perfect, in my humble opinion even without the word “quite”. Perfect, that is! Reading most of my books in English I’m possibly not the best, but certainly also a good source to say so.
Do you allow me to continue my profiling?
The knowledge of you working in the tricky field of jewelry as a well-trained (and sought after)Biologist and Chemist, allows further hints towards your origin, following only one train of thought here. As a collector of ancient and antique glassbeads myself, being quite often on jewelry-shows and publishing articles on the subject in “Ornament Magazine” I have lots of ties in the field of art as well. And I know how hard this bread is, you have chosen to earn money with (unless you were one o those very-very few name-artists).
The person in our case speaks perfect English, but is neither American nor French; knows German language, but did not grew up with German as first language most likely; is an academic but works in a business most likely being less profitable, has most likely, not necessarily a German-speaking father (knowing and using German proverbs does not necessarily mean that father is German, though. People, for example, use “latin proverbs” rather often, without being Romans); she´s multi-lingual, but not French; knows about and is interested in popular American culture; argues, speaks AND writes from a western standpoint. Our person knows about psychology, is life-experienced, appears to be very sympathetic, likes to travel and has long legs.
Question: is she guilty and if so, of what?
But where does our subject come from, as far as geography is concerned? Where is she living now, where did she grew up and did she live in a third country in-between?
I am rather sure I have the answers. Yes, all three (because there are three [at least]).
No, I am not going to name it! Not unless “Sunny” gives green light.
And that is maybe the connection to the Anthony-case. Why and how…?
If it were correct, what I have to offer about our sunny “Sunny’s” various whereabouts, I would possibly be right in what I offered on the outcome of the Caisey Anthony case.
Logic, where the logic is, you wonder? There isn´t any, sorry. Another parallel to the C.A.-riddle.
Happy you´re part of the circle, Sunny!
Jue
PS
Actually I was ready to propose to “Momma”. Then I thought, common, “Momma” is already happy, propose to AZ, my latest girlfriend. Now, after reading your post, Sunny, I wonder if you might want to accept my proposal.
Momma – any advice?
Please consider, Momma, that I have a crush on intellegent woman with long legs. Despite being the father of 5 cats (’Mikki’ from Senegal, ‘Bublik’ from Russia, ‘Timmy’ from USA, ‘Baby’ from Morocco and ‘Katie’ from Goa/India – all thrown-away sweethearts. All of them LOVE me, though three of them are boys…)I am free and ready to propose or accept proposals.
PPS
I hope this silly-sunny post does not fall into a time with a major break into the Caisey-thing. I better go and check…
Maybe an accident happened. Perhaps Casey is suffering from post traumatic stress which would explain her delusional lies. In her mind Caylee is with a “sitter” to justify to herself that the baby is ok. I pray that the baby is okay. Padilla??? He irks me.
Momma: “Yes, we can all be friends”
Nonono, Momma – if you´re not going to accept my proposal, you have to be at least my “best gal” throwing roses at “our” trash wedding in Vegas, with Elvis singing “My way”.
Note please: Christian stadium-healers not allowed!
PS
Lügen = not like “Logan”, yes, more like a mix of Loogan and Lewgan. A bit tricky for US tongues!
Good morning All!
I wonder if Casey is getting out today.?.?
I commend everyone for their civil postings this morning. Let’s keep it up.
To JB: The bloggers that were out searching over the weekend are from the MyFoxOrlando blog site. BTW, they stand by their actions and defend one another whole heartedly. One lady spoke up against the civilian search and she got slammed!
JB…Once again, you’re analysis is interesting! I once lived in Germany and say one liners to my kids. Maybe Cloudy/Sunny’s Dad did the same thing. You’re ahead of me on this one JB. I don’t have a clue where Cloudy is from. I will say I am crushed that you have left me for another woman with longer legs! haha.
http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/DrugIssue/MethResources/faces/photo_2.html
Click on the pics to the left…
JB..Can you post your email again? I want to send you information on another story I have been following and would like your opinion..
quote AZ: ” The bloggers that were out searching over the weekend are from the MyFoxOrlando blog site. BTW, they stand by their actions and defend one another whole heartedly. One lady spoke up against the civilian search and she got slammed!”
Just by chance I had a look into this blog. Frankly? I was already preparing to register, because I had certain sinister thoughts and ideas.
As the good boy I’m now – Momma shall be praised forever – I was finally reminded that this blog was a chance to proof my new ego as “The good German” (actually a film, AZ, you could/should watch). I stopped the registration process just thinking to myself “Hey guys, what you and this blog need is a guy like me, a German fireman able to trample out all the nasty-dangerous fires you´re trying to lit!”
We should not forget the hometown of this blog. FoxNews is possibly not the best address for the more considered breed – people like us, this is…! Aren´t I right, Momma?
Nono, Mom, you got that wrong. You´re still in the race. You still have your chances. But, I tell you, I am also able and willing to convert to Islam and marry all three of you (since four are allowed, I keep that last option open or a later choice).
OK – enough of such jokes and for those who take me serious, I´ve already posted my REAL mail-address (#436).
Since the (actual) Caisey-case seems to remain rather cool – or is she out already – we could possibly discuss the pro’s and con´s of another aspect of the case. Any ideas?
What about the crime-labs. As a biologist, “Sunny” you should have a point to make. Why does it take so long. Wasn´t that already a week ago, that the lab was called in? Is it normal, that rather normal tests take that long? Can´t imagine that!
Juergen, Mein Schatz-
Please recall your post regarding Die Moritat von Mackie Messer…
“Und Schmul Meier bleibt verschwunden” was taken out of context, as was my reworking of the line.
Was I speaking improperly, or was I playing with the words of Weill? It is for you to decide.
We are ALL Sherlocks here. Does it speak volumes that what we actually know amounts to the hole of a bublik?
Habe dich sehr lieb und sende dir auf zarten Fluegeln ein Kuesschen.
Post submitted on behalf of JB…
PS
As a headline over our blog is written since 7-10 days: “Proscecutors Believe Caylee Anthony Could Be Dead”
Leave alone this sentence is rather silly in itself (BELIEVE + COULD BE – not an experience writer who composed that)I really have a hard time to understand why they said and thought so, but did nothing, literally nothing to deliver any arguments.
I wonder more and more what´s wrong with this specific cops. They even prefer to take “psychics” (Psy Chicks?)into the investigation, something what does not strike me as being serious. And again my blood gets into motion, making me ready to use words like “Bullsh##” or “stupid” and the likes.
Why no asking “Bigfoot”? He possibly know the woods best and is actually in the press big-time as well. Could so some good to the tourism-industry, I assume! If “Bigfoot” is busy, we could give it a shot with “YETI”. True, he´s kinda shy and rarely answers his phone, but he has an age-old experience in difficult inviroments. I saw this “Sigh-Kick” at Nancy some days back. Terribile (pronounce it like Italians do, please)!!!
With a long-rolling “R” in the middle!
Te—rrrrrrrrr-ibi-lay (phon.)
“Und Schmul Meier bleibt verschwunden” was taken out of context, as was my reworking of the line.
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Excactly what I like to do – playing with words (from films or songs etc.) When on the receiving end, it seems, I didn´t get it. Your reference to Weill!
MEA CULPA!
I dont know if anybody else has trouble with this page being slow…but, I do. Drives me nuts.
At any rate, I also ask (like JB does) “Why is the DNA taking SO long”?
It has been how many weeks. Surely by now they should know something.
Found on Myfoxorlando.com:
Tony (Padilla) tells FOX 35 they are waiting for something to clear, but would not specify what. He did say that “something” was unexpected and complicated.
Oooo…maybe the DNA? We could only hope.
Whatever it is, I hope it is something to keep her in jail. I don’t have a good feeling about her getting out right now, under these circumstances….I don’t think it would be helpful to the investigation at this time.
in my heart i believe that caylee is dead. and that her mother is the one who is responsible for her death. as i see it the grandmother is the one who has raised the baby and then for some reason the daughter took the baby girl away from the grandmother to punish her for some reason. she should have came forward from the beginninng. whether she left caylee in the hot car or some how caylee fell or something like that, that caused her death. casey is the one who is responsible for taking caylee away from the only home and life that she ever knew. casey will probably never tell what happened or where caylee is, SHE IS THE ONE WHO HAS TO LEAVE WITH IT FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE. I HOPE THAT SHE LEAVES TO BE 120 YEARS OLD. a baby is a gift from God and casey and every other person who hurts a baby should all leave and fell the pain that every baby or child has ever felt.
According to the Orlando Inmate Data website, Casey is listed as “home confinement”. Makes me wonder if she has been released/bonded out already.
For the “family”…JB is having technical difficulties and cannot post at this time but will be back later. Was asked to relay the message.
As far as the DNA results are concerned, I have some information that may or may not be helpful for everyone to understand. Yes, it is surely possible, even probable, that they have already received the results on the “stain” in the back of Casey’s car. The problem being, that if indeed it is a blood sample, even if it does belong to Caylee, it still proves very little.
Because the car was primarily driven by Casey, she had every reason to utilize every compartment of the car; namely the trunk. If the sample came back as Caylee’s, is it unreasonable to come up with scenarios that also lead to blood being found? No.
DNA has been used in criminal trials most effectively when there is no other plausible reason to find it where it should not have been. For example: if it was a stranger’s car that was the scene of testing, and the owner stated that he had never allowed anyone to use it, and also held fast to the claim that he had never seen the child, and DNA evidence was recovered; it could corner him in a lie that would hold up in court. Because the blood could have come from a bloody nose and been transferred to the trunk by Casey after changing her daughter into clean clothes and moving the bloodied one to be laundered later, it is not necessarily out of place there. Unless it can be determined by the volume of the blood necessary to create a stain similar to their discovery, that a body would not be viable after the loss of such an amount; then the blood can easily be explained away. Especially by a woman that tells more stories than the Grimm brothers.
As far as the air tests are concerned, the trunk was aired out on many separate occasions and the chemicals putrescine and cadaverine (among others) could have dissipated beyond lending to any positive test results. It also depends on the time frame in which the trunk carried a dead body (if indeed it did), if it was within hours of death, there would be no indication of decomposition. If the body was buried in the early stages of decomposition or putrefaction, it would have been protected from the elements, if even only slightly. The time frame in question is between June 16th and June 30th. (The date Caylee was last seen, and the day the car was towed). In those two weeks a dead body could go from a solid- to a near liquid form. Because one can assume that it was probably closer to the 16th than the 30th, we can also assume that it is possible that there was such a small amount of decomposition that it is more than likely that little, if any, byproducts of this would have contributed to a stain. Without proof of a dead body, you are left with proof that a body bled at some point, and haven’t we all?
So, if they have Caylee’s DNA, it doesn’t really mean much of anything (from a prosecutorial standpoint), and because of the double-jeopardy law, if Casey was to stand trial, and was aquitted, they could not attempt a second trial even if Caylee’s body was found and Casey admitted to her murder afterwards. It is in the court’s best interest to wait to file formal charges until a body, or irrefutable evidence is found. There is no statute of limitations on murder, so even if it takes ten years, they are more apt to wait and secure a guilty verdict than to go to trial and hope in the absence of that elusive shadow of a doubt.
If a news broadcast came on right this second announcing that Caylee was found alive and well, and she was to be shown on this program, how many of us would tune into it excited to see her? There is an old story of a court trial in which a woman stood accused of murdering her husband. The body was never found, but the case went to trial in spite of that fact. Halfway through the proceedings the defense attorney received a small folded piece of paper from the court clerk. After reading it he announced to the courtroom; “My client will now be exonerated, as her husband has just been located alive and well, and is waiting in the hallway”. As the door to the courtroom rattled he pointed his finger towards it “And here he is!”. After the doors swung open the only person that walked through them was the lawyer’s colleague. When he turned to address the jury he asked them “Now, how many of you turned to the door expecting to see the husband? If you did, then you have reasonable doubt to his death, and must find my client not guilty.”
“SUNNY” wrote:
“As the door to the courtroom rattled he pointed his finger towards it “And here he is!”. After the doors swung open the only person that walked through them was the lawyer’s colleague. When he turned to address the jury he asked them “Now, how many of you turned to the door expecting to see the husband? If you did, then you have reasonable doubt to his death, and must find my client not guilty.”
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A true story, Sunny? Do you maybe know where and when it happened. Sounds pretty convincing. A clever-cunning trick in favour of the “murder-woman” by her lawyer. Still, I am not convinced that a connection – between jurors looking at that court-room door in suspence and the lawyers assumption that jurors must have had a reasonable doubt than indeed – can be made and lead to an exoneration. I´m curious to know now, if this was a real incident or just a lawyer’s dinner-party story about the fine definition of what a “reasonable doubt” is.
Please tell or quote, Sunny!
Jue
comment 481 you’re correct. I found the same info, “HOME CONFINEMENT undisclosed” at orangecountyfl.net Sure looks like she’s out!
Is the forum losing drive? Not in quality, but certainly in quantity.
Maybe the Florida congregation is busy fighting the elements?
I wish you to be safe and remain safe during the attack. Hopefully you have a good house-insurance, in case you´re not lucky.
Momma, close the shutters – with or without storm. Nancy’s going to prepare for the next installment of “what-Caisey-never-said”.
jue
Excuse me, but is this case maybe not as big as we think it is? Nobody really seems to know if the main player in this “Comedia dell’ arte” is free by now or not…?
Strange – the press knows the daily colour of Britney’s underwear, but is not reporting the latest on a case we think is the case-of-the-year?
Are we wrong?
Mysterious, really!
jue
The “home confinement” is under number of holds. They have stated home confinement is a hold along with 2 other undisclosed holds. That does not mean she has been released.
JB, in reply to your comments in post # 486, since I live in Arizona, I don’t get the news as quickly as those on “ground zero”. Even then, there has been speculation that Casey will be released without the public’s knowledge – mostly for safety reasons, I’m sure.
Is this case as big as it is made out to be? Yes, most definitely! This crazy bi#$% has withheld information in regard to her child’s whereabout’s…or murdered her for all we know. Those actions are unheard of in almost every country including the U.S..
I don’t think this case is losing the public’s interest, but I for one have other things to do besides read and post blogs all day, every day. That is my thought/opinion on why there has been a decrease in blogs on this site. Another reason may simply be that “the family” has decided that absurd speculations are not welcome here. Other sites like MyFoxOrlando totally welcome and accept speculations of incest and grandparent involvement beyond covering up lies.
Last post for the night, I am tired. School and family has worn me out today.
We are all entitled to our own opinions as to what we think has happened. It looks like a few bloggers have “scared” some others away. This forum isn’t for arguing, but for throwing out our theories and thoughts. I’m not afraid to say I believe CASEY IS GUILTY of what appears to be murder. Oh, maybe she left her kid with a friend who then took off. This is what the kookie bounty hunter says. Tell me, WHY did the friend take off? I don’t think anyone took this baby, and if anyone actually believes that story, their up there with the bounty hunter. Someone needs to shake this mom for information, not release her!
take a look at the site ” brians dreams SOS team” at the end thre is a comment in in big caps letters and her name is collen read what she experienced you will be amazed like i was
Although I don’t think we can rule anything out, I’m not a big “psychic” follower. The blog with Colleen was interesting, but why haven’t the authorities checked these places out? I do have to think Caylee is somewhere as these people have described, but couldn’t they get the dogs to follow through? It just makes me sick to think that this little girl is somewhere out there.
I would have to agree with alot of you on here. I think caylee is dead to but i think that it is one of two way the first is that casey or her mom killed caylee and those two are covering it up together and the dad knows nothing about it because really if anyone hasnt notice he is the one make alot of noise where as the mom and casey are being really quit. I think that the mom and casey have something that they are hiding together. the second way I think this little girl is gone is that it could be that casey’s boyfriend or both of them killed this little girl because how can the boyfriend spend all that time with casey and not realize some thing is wrong when he doesnt see the little girl anymore any body would realize that and would start asking questions right away unless they had some thing to hide as well. or if this family is as messed up as i think then all of them have something to do with this little girl missing including the boyfriend. I am a mother of three and would do what ever was necessary to find my kids.
The boyfriend may be involved, but to his defense, his roommate said Casey “called” home and pretended to be talking to her mom about how Caylee was doing, etc. Casey supposedly told the boyfriend her mom had her, and she told her mom the babysitter did. I firmly believe G&G are innocent, but I also believe that now they may know more than they are telling the press, and may be protecting their daughter. I do not think they were involved in ANY way.
Good morning all!
I bet Casey can’t get AKON’s song out of her head…I messed around and got LOCKED UP.
AZ..funny!
I checked out the website Maria posted. Pretty freaky stuff….interesting. These people are very serious about finding Caylee.
Hello everybody,
“Maria” and “OH” could you please post a link of what thought was intetesting or freaky on this “dream-website”?
I found it and took a (very) short look, but couldn´t say what is interesting or freaky there.
A guy with dreams! So what?
There has been a GREAT! man with a dream once. It didn´t took much – boom, like that – and dead he was!
Without knowing details about this “Brian dreamer” I prefer to trust in science and common sense (what for we went through the “Age of enlightment”…?)and always have a feeling that such guys are “dangerous” one way or the other.
I just dreamed that (this) Brian´s dreams are worth s**t. The last sentence just to confirm my latest bad-boy-turned-sweetheart imagne.
Momma, are you well? I hope no bad dreams came true and your roof flew away during the recent storm.
My other friends please know that I am Xtremely busy in the very moment, but following this blog and this blog only.
Caisey still inside? Death-threats against John ‘Bailbond’ Wayne? Labs still taking their time? Nothing new?
Jue
What I thought was “freaky”, (although maybe I am using the word in the wrong context) is the big blurb in the end written in caps. It described a very disturbing scenario that made me wish I had not read it. What I thought was “interesting” was that so many people claim to be having (or believe they are having, or are actually having) dreams/visions about this case. It has touched a lot of people.
JB-”Interesting” in a context meaning, “Oh, I see.” I don’t really go for that stuff myself. To each his own.
People keep saying that the whole family had something to do with this because they are all “messed up”.I’m not understanding what makes you think they are all messed up?Casey is definately but the rest of the family?They seem pretty normal to me….are your families all perfect?(or what you think perfect may be?)These people are fed up with Caseys BS and frantically looking for their granddaughter!How would you like them to “seem”?
Could it be that J.B., JB, Schatz, & UnixJo all share the same last name of Anthony?
And they are pissed that incest was even
mentioned! How dare! That’s ok, they say,
we will diverge & distract & overwhelm that
blog!!
See for yourselves. Read from posts 167.
LadyintheShade: Oh, you’ve found me out! Your powers of deduction are freaking fantastic.
Want some inside information? Here you go:
Cindy has always done Lee and Casey’s laundry on a weekly basis. When Lee moved to his new apartment he did not have a working washer or drier, and so he dropped his laundry off at mom & dads when he came by on the weekend for one of the big family barbecues. I can’t remember if it was Cindy or George, but either way- they finally found him a used set, and Casey relayed the message. Even after he no longer had to rely on mom to wash his clothes, he still came by at least every other weekend to play with Caylee and eat with the fam. Cindy still did Casey’s laundry, so it doesn’t shock me that she washed her pants, she probably did it out of habit.
Did you know that Lee and Casey were huge Star Wars fans? That probably makes them guilty of something, I’m sure.
Lee just had a bad and very messy breakup, before he met Mallory, and Casey helped him daily, she was always ready to defend her big bro. Casey was always having guy trouble, and Lee helped her just the same. They have always been super-close and supportive of each other.
Lee took Casey out on her 21st birthday, and made sure that she was ok, after drinking.
The Anthony’s have had problems like any other family, but they have always been close, and tight-knit. Cindy and George always loved having everyone around, not because they were sick and twisted, but because they had fun as a family.
I haven’t spoken to Lee in a week or so, but when I did, he was doing his best to deal with everything, and still was as gracious, and warm as he always has been.
♥
To my friend, Schatz. I have no problem believing that the Anthony’s are a close family. I also believe that their worst mistake may have been doing too much for their daughter. I am also guilty of helping too much; it doesn’t teach enough Independence, which of course is our job/goal as a parent. I believe everything you say above with one exception…I’m sorry to disagree, but I believe Casey has harmed her child. To me, there is no evidence to suggest anything but. I feel terribly sorry for her family.
One more thing..This is in defense to my new friend, JB. When he first started writing blogs, I think we were all taken back by what seemed to be his improper use of slang. At the time, I didn’t realize he was not from this Country. I have been talking to him and now undertand the culture, and speaking terms in Germany are much different than in America. Americans, such as myself, have a whole different way of living and Europeans can’t relate to this because they have a different lifestyle. I know this to be true after living in Germany for 2 years. Not to offend, but they don’t have the handouts we do here in America, and some may look at it as lazy, spoiled, and even irresponsible (which some are!) I think when I pointed it out to him a few blogs back, he realized his words hurt and now know where WE are coming from as well. He has certainly softened his words since. He really is a nice guy, so give Jue another chance!
Going back to the psychic’s vision. “We see the woods, earth and a building” Seriously?? I am open minded to things like that, but such a cookie cutter vision straight out of Medium.
BTW…Where’s Madeleine McCann?
My opinion about Madeline is that no parents in their right minds would leave a 4 year old and 2 2 year olds alone in a Hotel room while they go to dinner. My theory is they gave them sleeping medication but overdosed Madeline by accident…panicked, and got rid of her. Whatever happened, it is because of the stupidity of the parents…leaving toddlers alone in a foreign country…or anywhere, so they could go enjoy a meal?
she’s officially out of jail. making her way to her parents house.
Here’s the link of Casey walking out of the OCJ.
http://www.local6.com/video/17253481/index.html
I am very concerned with the racism and degrading behavior posted on this sight. I think everyones opinion is valued, I keep watching about this case, and I can see so many different ideas people have about what happened. I have no idea what happened, nor do I want to make a guess. But, I will say this, I thoroughly enjoyed reading all of your opinions, your different ideas, and even some of the extremely “out there” theories. However, I am very sad about the racist remarks coming from a specific person. I wish not to say the name. We are aware of who this is.
I love my country, I love all of the people who make up this country. Including foreign students trying to get an education. However, I am always upset to hear that someone came to my country to better themselves, and they are taking full advantage of what my country has to offer, but all the while griping about te people who make this country work. And the people, no matter their success level, education level, or status, make this country great. I am so glad you are able to come here to take advantage of what these people you are degrading created for you. I am not sure if you have ever heard the term, “you should never look a gift horse in the mouth” or “don’t bite the hand that feeds you”, but, you might want to think about that. I for one welcome you to my country with open arms. I respect that you are from a different country, and bring possibly different beleifs, I do not however respect the fact that you would come to this country, then berate the people who make it up. I hope one day you come to treat all people as deserving of respect and kindness as I do. I will pray for you to gain patience and tollerance.
I have to agree with MomaRosa about JB.
He has been softer with his blogs. Way to go JB!
Yes, Casey is out and has made her way back to the parents home. I dont think however, that Casey will tell Padilla anything more. I think she will also give them a goosechase of false information.
I dont believe that she sold the baby for drugs because had she did, doesn’t anybody else think that the dealers would turn Caylee in for the 225,000 reward? Or somebody would tell the police something.
I believe as as well as most others that poor little Caylee is deceased.
I think Mom (Casey) is guilty as sin.
My other feeling is that Grandma Cindy knows more. I am not saying that Grandpa George or Brother Lee does, just Cindy.
I check all the news sites in Orlando area eveyday day for new leads or info.
I have also been on the site of Brians Predictions. Yes, just predictions.
For JB here is the link:
http://briansprediction.com/gale/Caylee%20Anthony.htm
Here are some news sites as well:
http://www.wftv.com
http://www.local6.com
http://www.myfoxorlando.com
(hope these help JB)
I know many of us have come on here to voice our opinions as well I have just done. I am by no means saying I am clairvoyant…just expressing my thoughts.
Oh and I dont believe Caylee is a product of incest.
Another thought I have had…how come you never hear of any other family? Like, aunts, uncles or cousins. Maybe none live in the area that she was close to. Who knows.
Padilla and his people have been told by Casey’s attorney not to ask her any questions pertaining to the case. Casey has been instructed not to answer any questions.
So what good does getting her out do?
We know that Casey has lied and that her parents haven’t disclosed more information about the character of their daughter. They aren’t telling the public everything they know or the public would be making final judgements based on that information which may not have much to do with what happened to Caylee or it may have. Either way, they are watching what they say. I include the brother on this one. He isn’t be very open either. I wouldn’t be surprised if he knew where Caylee might be either.
The following is a quote from CNN.com website news article:
“I believe she made a mistake, handed her daughter off and she is alive,” said Padilla, who predicted his team would find Caylee within a week.”
Padilla doesn’t have a clue.
This is what I am confused about…how can Casey possibly go stay at her parents house when so many citizens seem to be out for her blood? I mean, wouldn’t there be people surrounding the house 24/7 trying to get a glimpse of her, or yelling obscenities…throwing rocks through windows, etc? Crowd-reaction can get pretty violent, and there are so many people angry at Casey and would probably like to see her come to harm. I am so surprised she would dare to go home, and that her parents would let her. I also have a very bad feeling about her being released.
Yesterday my 2 year old son saw Caylee’s picture on my monitor. He sees “wings” on people, which I think are their auras, and he tells people what color their wings are. I asked him what color wings Caylee had, and he said red. I asked him if he knew anything else about Caylee. ” She’s lost “, he said. It was kind of chilling, and I don’t think he meant lost literally, I think he meant deceased.
CDN, I certainly don’t mean to criticize you, but I for one am not a believer in auras. We are all entitled to believe in what we choose, of course, so please don’t take this as bashing. I think it’s a mistake that Casey has been released for the reasons you mentioned. I would just like to know this. If Caylee is supposedly with friends or a babysitter, why can’t Casey be made to tell where, since she seems to be at ease with it? Just another lie on her part. I feel the poor kid is gone for good.
i beleive Casey killed Caylee and when the truth comes out Casey is going to be another Susan Smith who decided to “get rid” of the child who was a cramp in her social life!!!!!!
I agree, Amy.
CDN, the begging of your comment sounded sensible but towards the end??? Something needs tightening!
lol…don’t worry guys, I don’t take offense. I do believe that children, because they are closer to where they came from, can somethings see things we as adults can’t. However, I would never suggest these things to my children, or play them up. My little guy started mentioning this himself, about seeing people’s wings, and telling me what color they were. Who knows? Maybe he just has a good imagination.
first of all does anybody really know where caylee was the day she went missing…with grandparents or mom? and it just seems to be a whole big plot with this family that nobody will find out…and maybe the family just wanted caylees name to be the same as the moms because maybe the father didnt want her or maybe the reason her fathers family isnt in this whole thing is because maybe they dont know their son had a kid! i mean caylees last name isnt her fathers..who knows! and i think that there is tons and tons of rumors going on with this either ppl are mixing this up or this family is…but they need to get casey on a lie detector and ask her some questions that would be helpful to find this little girl!plus is casey living with her parents or boyfriend? its all just confusing…now that shes going back home maybe the cops should take one last good look through that whole house and ask the family to leave and put video cameras up and see if that family is doing something suspicious since a lot of ppl think its the whole family who is in on it! i just hope that little girl is found and is safe!
Well, I for one do NOT believe the whole family is in on it. I think Casey did this on her own. I DO feel the family does know more now, but for obvious reasons are protecting Casey. I still don’t think they know the whole truth, and I think Mom and Dad are trying to believe their daughter is innocent, so they are believing anything this girl throws out there.
Let us pray that everyone leaves Casey alone (the annonymously sent pizza delivered to “Decomp” after Casey arrived home was sent with a malicious cruelty that is chilling) and lets events take their course.
Time will reveal all. As a retired teacher, I’ve seen enough with young people to not be naive, but I also thankfully possess the ability to see through negative and unacceptable behavior with faith in the human heart. Circumstantial evidence does not sway that ability.
Casey had no motive. Sorry, but I don’t buy she wanted to party and Caylee was in the way. News photos of the backyard alone indicate George and Cindy adored and cared for that child. Casey had all the parental support any single mom could desire. There was NO reason (that has been reported)for Casey to suddenly want to eliminate her daughter from the obviously comfortable living situation they both enjoyed. Casey had the freedom of a single woman because of her parents.
Forensic results: more than enough time for the results. And don’t they communicate via phone for “preliminary” findings. Possibly just not releasing the results. With the attention and national coverage this case gets, pressure mounts and if there was something she would have been charged.
Furthermore, if a bounty hunter can bring Caylee home, he deserves to get a book deal out of it. Who cares? “Just bring her home” should be the mantra for all of us.
“PA” (post #510), others,
thank you for transmitting the links I had aksed for, “PA”. Kind of you!
I just went to “brianspredictions.com”, read a short! while,…then left the site speechless, sad and angry – my usual cocktail of emotions in the Caylee-case.
It´s a meeting spot of freaks, there! No wonder, with the site owner being a troubled psycho himself!
The saddening part is the knowledge that this posters are mothers, friends and neighbours too, avarage main-stream, living among us undetected. They do not even dream that they should be at the receiving, not the giving end. They need support of a shrink, I believe. Not the applause of a virtual “speakers corner”, a platform where they can elaborate on their illusions and conflicts, encouraging and drawing uncounted other weak souls into the same psycho-mess. Babblings of their own youngsters is redefined (? > “wird umdefiniert”) into important relevations of the pseudo-religious kind.
The reverse side of a bloggers paradise? The dark side of an endless freedom-of-speech, where even the most ridicolous ideas meets an insterested public?
“denn sie wissen nicht, was sie tun!”
>jue
“Also-a-mother” (#523)
Hello, dear,
I bow before you and wish my ex-teachers had been as wise and human as you in your post!
I sigh and smile,
please stay!
>jue
“Also-a-mother” (#523)
Hello, dear,
I bow before you and your wise and human contribution.
I just wish all our posters had been so lucky to be tought by the considerate and warm personality, you seem to be.
sigh and smile,
please stay with us,
>jue
#523: You are one of the rare ones who think Casey is innocent and she had no motive. Hey, wait a minute, is this the Bounty Hunter?
ouiii…!
Sorry, thought my first one didn´t went through…(leave alone your posts deserves many more responses),
jue
ok so i was reading and it says the day that she went issing was june 9…which her grandparents say she was with them…but then they say actually the last day they saw her was june15! if she was missing on june 9th how did grandma see her june 15th?…weird
since the dog found human decompostion in the car and backyard but no body maybe miss casey decided to dig her up and take her somewhere else because obvisouly she was in that yard those dogs barely have false statements!
Yes Cathy, I find it hard to believe that anything other than a dead body could have been in that yard.
I BELIEVE THAT CASEY KILLED CAYLEE IN A FIT OF RAGE.CAYLEE WAS GETTING IN CASEY WAY OF GOING OUT AND PARTYING.I THINK THAT POOR LITTLE CAYLEE IS DECEASED.CASEY IS GUILTY AS SIN.SHE HASN’T SHOWED ANY REMORSE OR ANY TEARS.CASEY IS A HEARTLESS PERSON AND DOESN’T CARE ABOUT HER CHILD. YES CASEY IS A SAD EXCUSE FOR A MOTHER.SHE WON’T EVEN HELP THE AUTHORITIES WITH TRYING TO FIND HER MISSING CHILD.
(527) No, I’ve never been a bounty hunter unless teaching other peoples’ children in a “captive” classroom audience qualifies.
Also, I don’t think I’m the only person who believes in our judicial system’s guarantee that one is innocent until proven guilty over a lynch mob mentality. And no I’m not Casey’s attorney either, or have any connection to, or met any of the family even though I frequent the Orlando area.
Perhaps the like-minded people have participated in vigils, prayer and conversations with friends instead of blogging where if someone does withold conviction of Casey until proven otherwise, they are a “minority.”
At the moment I don’t care that this post probably does not belong here. I just wanted to let my friends and fellow sleuths here know that I suffered a great loss yesterday. My closest friend of 18 years passed away after what should have been routine surgery. With a broken heart and little to give, I will no longer be posting here, but hope that the forum continues to be a place of community, and intellectual exchange.
The loudest sound in the world can sometimes be silence.
CloudyDay..I am SO sorry for your loss. May you find peace and comfort. I am also done posting here; it was nice meeting you though. I sincerely wish you well. God Bless you~
I have been following the comments on this site for quite awhile now, and there are some very interesting theories posted.
I believe, as most of you, that Caylee has passed by the hand of her mother. As far as motive, I think that she murdered her child to punish her mother. Firstly, she was jealous of the relationship her mother and her daugher had. Secondly, her mother’s devotion to Caylee made her feel incompetent as a mother, unable to feed her, shelter her, clothe her, etc. She felt trapped in the situation, even though she had freedom, her mother always made her feel that she was a lousy parent. Casey felt she had no control over the situation, and blamed her mother for this. So in an effort to regain control of the situation,she decided to show her mother just how much control she had….she took away what her mother loved most in the world, Caylee.
Casey presents herself as being a sociopath, only concerned about herself. She manipulates everyone to get what she wants, and unfortunately, Caylee was a pawn as well.
However, from a legal standpoint, I really fear that the police have no evidence to prove she murdered her child. Unless they find the remains, the only evidence thay have is circumstantial, and this is not good enough to convict her of murder.
Cloudy Day, I am so sorry to hear about your friend. My thoughts are with you. I can’t imagine your sorrow to lose someone so expectedly like that.
I too am done posting here…I feel more sick to my stomach everyday about Caylee, and it is starting to affect me in such a negative way…nightmares, headaches depression. On a final note, I pray there will be justice and closure to this case. God bless you Caylee.
I have been following the story as it appears on my home page in the news.Anyone who has children in someway connected to the child in this story Caylee b/c she is the true victim here. As for the family although their behavior is questionable they are very much affected and hurting over this and for that they are in my prayers.
If you want to know what I think I believe as days past the chance of finding the child alive become less and less unless she is with someone who truly do care for her. As for now in my heart I believe she is out there she is alive and her mom does know where.
Think about this you don’t report people “missing” when you know where they are hince the 31days that went by with no complaint or concern. As a parent whether you a good parent bad parent even a parent who killed there kid it is your instinct to report the child mising in the first 72 hrs. I can’t believe that Casey unknowing where her child is even if she was on drugs, victim or incest or any of the other theories listed here I cant believe she would not report her kid missing even if she did something wrong b/c if nothing else you look innocent. All parents when your child is missing become a suspect until you can be ruled out it’s just the way the system work and all parents know that.
Her feeling of Caylee being in danger I believe that came from being behind bars and not knowing how the child is or whats going on unable to reach out to whom ever has the child since all calls made from jail are taped she couldnt very well pick up the phone and call her now could she?
On the flip side of that the thing that really baffles me is how there have been only a handful or sighting of the child which shows that we really dont pay much attention to the people around us.
Casey even while withholding information is innocent remember that is her constitutional right until proven guilty in a court of law.
Now that she is home we should all find out the truth fairly soon b/c she is on house arrest with her family which I believe will place her back against the wall one way or the other so let’s just wait to see what happens next
(536) says “As far as motive, I think that she murdered her child to punish her mother. Firstly, she was jealous of the relationship her mother and her daugher had. Secondly, her mother’s devotion to Caylee made her feel incompetent as a mother, unable to feed her, shelter her, clothe her, etc. She felt trapped in the situation, even though she had freedom, her mother always made her feel that she was a lousy parent. Casey felt she had no control over the situation, and blamed her mother for this. So in an effort to regain control of the situation,she decided to show her mother just how much control she had….she took away what her mother loved most in the world, Caylee.”
Wow. Are you a fiction writer (I am) or a psychologist? If Casey is a sociopath, then your theory is entirely plausible and it did occur to me while pondering the possible meaning of her post to her mother, “Everone lies, everyone dies”. However, with no actual facts to support this speculation, my feeling echoes mom with one on the way: “wait and see what happens next.”
It will be lonely and certainly not the same any more without you Sunny, Momma and possibly AZ too, who might have left as well.
I stay, for now, and if it were just for welcoming you back, in case you change your mind.
It will be interesting to see how this blog will do without your input of the different kind.
Thanks for your considerate thoughts and comments!
talk to you soon,
>jue
Poster #536:
When reading your name I didn´t expect anything plausible of you. My prejudice turned into knowledge by the time I finished reading your…, analysis!
Try a glass of warm milk, honey!
J
Check out the posts at cayleeanthony.wordpress.com – someone named “Christina”, apparently, (according to her) she has inside info and has delved into a pretty detailed accounting of what happened to Caylee. You should check it out. It’s in the Tim in Colorado thread.
Also, see the comments after the article titled, “Casey says, “I’m Innocent Leaving Jail”
Poster (541) The reality is some, not all, have left this post for more interesting ones. I have read the ones listed by (542) and have found additional information (instead of the back and forth bantering on this one) This one became too personal between bloggers instead of discussing the current facts of the case.
FYI..MomaRosa and Rosa are two different posters.
Don’t worry JB, Moma may be done posting but it looks like she’s sill reading? lol
I believe the mother most certainly did something to this little girl, or else knows who did ..She has kept silent for to long not to be guilty of something really bad…I know if my daughter were missing, It would take more than a threat from the kidnapper to keep me from asking for help from anyone I thought could help me get my baby back, so yea most deffinatly the Mother is responsible for this entire thing that has happened…
JUST IGNORE JB’S COMMENTS GO TO 167 AND 502HES A NUT CASE. THE ANTHONY’S ARE IN THIS FOR THE MONEY, THEY HAVE A BOOK AND MOVIE ALREADY. GEORGE HAS POSTED ON HIS WEB PAGE WITH HIS ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER TO DROP OFF FOOD AND GIFT CARDS FOR TARGET ,WAL-MART, GAS CARDS,ECT.THEY HAVE FILED FOR BANKRUPCY TWICE ONE IN OHIO WHERE THEY TRANFERRED PROPERTY IN TO LEE NAME AT AGE 7 ,AND ONCE IN FL. BECAUSE THE LAWS IN FL. ARE MORE LIENT. HE FILED FOR DIVORCE FROM CINDY IN 2005, DROPPED RIGHT BEFORE CAYLEE WENT MISSING. DO NOT DISMISS THE THE INCEST THEORY SO QUICK, GEORGE WAS ONLY A COP FOR 10 YEARS , YOU DO NOT RETIRE AFTER 10 YRS. WITH BENEFITS AND INSURANCE, HE GAS A GAMBLEING PROBLEM, ONE REASON THE LEFT OHIO AND HE LET HIS JOB. HE IS A SECURITY GUARD MAKING LESS THAN $10. PER HOUR. CINDY HAS BEEN THE BREAD WINNER ALL THES YEARS, SHE WORK DOBLE SHIFTS AS A NURSE. GOOD MOTHER MOST LIKELY HAS A METH PROBLEM AND IS AN ALCOHOLIC AS IS HER FATHER.THERE IS A REWARD OF $225,000. REWARD FOR CAYLEE AND NO ONE HAS EVEN TRIED TO COLLECT IT.THE FATHER OF CAYLEE IS UNKNOWN ACCORDING TO CINDY, SHE DOES NOT KNOW HIS NAME, SHE SAID SHE KNOWS HE’S DEAD BECAUSE SHE READ IT IN THE PAPER, BUT DOES NOT REMEMBER HIS NAME. THE NAME THAT CAME UP, HIS FAMILY SAYS THERE IS NO WAY HE IS THE B