(Off-the-record discussions between Mr. Osburn and the defendant.)
The Defendant: Well, the – I don’t know how to exactly say that. I had many what I call them projects. They were different people in town that I followed, watched. Kathryn Bright was one of the next targets, I guess, as I would indicate.
The Court: How did you select her?
The Defendant: Just driving by one day, and I saw her go in the house with somebody else, and I thought that’s a possibility. There was many, many places in the area, College Hill even. They’re all over Wichita. But anyway, that’s – it just was basically a selection process, worked toward it. If it didn’t work I’d just move on to something else, but in the – in the – my kind of person, stalking and strolling (sic) – You go through the trolling stage and then a stalking stage. She was in the stalking stage when this happened.
The Court: All right, sir. So you identified Kathryn Bright as a potential victim.
The Defendant: Yes, sir.
The Court: What did you do here in Sedgwick County then?
The Defendant: Pardon?
The Court: What did you do then here in Sedgwick County?
The Defendant: On this particular day?
The Court: Yes.
The Defendant: I broke into the house and waited for her to come home.
The Court: How did you break into the house?
The Defendant: Through the back door on the east side.
The Court: All right. And you waited for her to come home.
The Defendant: Yes, sir.
The Court: Where did you wait?
The Defendant: In the house there, probably close to the bedroom. I walked through the house and kind of figured out where I’d be if they came through.
The Court: All right. What happened then?
The Defendant: She and Kevin Bright came in. I wasn’t expecting him to be there. And come to find out, I guess they were related. That time I approached them and told them I was wanted in California, needed some car – basically the same thing I told the Oteros. Kind of eased them, make them feel better, and proceeded to – I think I had him tie – I think I had him tie her up first, and then I tied him up, or vice versa. I don’t remember right now at that time.
The Court: Let – Let me ask –
The Defendant: Mm-hmm.
The Court: You indicated that you had some items to tie these people with. Did you bring these items, both the Oteros and to this location?
The Defendant: The Oteros I did. I’m not really sure on the Brights. There were some – I – When I had – In working with the police there was some conserversy (sic) on that. Probably more likely I did, but if – if I had brought my stuff and used my stuff Kevin would probably be dead today.
The Court: All right.
The Defendant: I’m not bragging on that. It’s just a matter of fact. It’s the bond had tau – row (sic) – tied him up with that he broke them, so that –
The Court: All right, sir.
The Defendant: It may be same way with -- same with Kathryn. It was -- They got outta – got outta hand.
The Court: All right. Now, you indicated you believe you had Kevin tie Kathryn up.
The Defendant: Mm-hmm.
The Court: Tell me what happened then.
The Defendant: Okay. I moved – Well, after – I really can’t remember, Judge, whether I had her tie him up or she tied him up; but anyway, I moved basically I moved her to another bedroom, and he as already secure there by the bed. Tied his feet to the bed post – one of the bedposts so that he couldn’t run. Kind of tired her in the other bedroom, and then I came back to strangle him, and at that time we had a fight.
The Court: Were you armed with a handgun at that time also?
The Defendant: Yes, I had a handgun.
The Court: All right. What happened when you came back.
The Defendant: I actually had two handguns.
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